Driving without due care and attention HGV

Conor_3

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

Didn't know this silly little row was going on, earlier in the thread i kept reading about blind spots on a truck, whats all that about then, no such thing on a modern UK spec truck.

BWAHAHAHAHA

If the person behind the wheel (i won't say driver, thats a title that takes years to earn its not a right) sets their mirrors correctly there is no blind spot anywhere except behind the vehicle itself.
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Can you tell me what experience you have of driving an articulated lorry? Because the points and accident free 15 years and thick end of 2 million miles worth of experience I have says everything you state above is utter !!!!!!!!.

Perhaps you'd like to tell me how I can see through the solid headboard of a trailer down the outside or manage to defy the laws of physics down the inside of the vehicle when making a turn?

Hell, even someone with a rudimentary grasp of geometry can work out where they are. I guess you failed maths as badly as you failed English.

Quinny_2

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

Didn't know this silly little row was going on, earlier in the thread i kept reading about blind spots on a truck, whats all that about then, no such thing on a modern UK spec truck.

And what makes you qualified to make such a bold statement then?

Conor_3

ozvaldinho wrote: »

easy to get a few mph extra, get your tacho calibrated by someone who knows how to set it bang on the upper tolerance, and fit a set of very bald tyres at the calibration, then change them. Worth an extra 6mph.

Rubbish. The tolerance is 2.5% and that's OVERREADING, it cannot legally underread. A worn tyre gets you 2KPH. So where do you get this 6MPH from?

Conor_3

derrick wrote: »

And I ask again, where is this "lorries are limited to 56mph"? the speed limit for an HGV on motorways is 60mph! I have had lorries tailgating me when my speedo is reading 70-80mph, so they are not all limited,(nor foreign).

EU Directive. Go learn something:
http://www.bvrla.co.uk/binary/documents/855_Speed_Limiters.pdf

The UK limit for lorries on the motorway is 60MPH however the EU Directive mandates a 90KPH speed limiter.

If you have proper lorries and not 7.5 tonners tailgating you when your speedo reads 70-80MPH, you need to get a new speedo as it is defective. If you had said 60-62MPH, I'd have given your post some credibility as a car speedo can legally overread up to 10%.

Conor_3

scotsman4th wrote: »

Just as an afterthought, any DECENT driver would have moved into the overtaking lane to be courteous to other road users. They would be forward thinking enough to realise there are vehicles going to join the motorway and do what they could to accomodate this.

I take it you'd like me to mow down the car to my right which is hidden from your view by my lorry?

Most (if not all) slip roads have plenty of sighting to allow observant drivers already on the motorway to assess whats happening in front of them.

Again, it is not the responsibility of the traffic already on the motorway to give way. It's because too many have, that moron car drivers think that they're supposed to and the near misses, slamming on brakes and veering up the hard shoulder happen.

I had one !!!!!! near Rochdale who had to brake because he cocked up joining come past me once he'd got on the motorway, carve me up and slam on like his !!!!up was my fault! I don't know where the hell I was supposed to go at the junction as there were two full lanes of traffic to my right. Silly me made the mistake of braking when he did that trick and ended up with some damage to the load. I won't be repeating it again and will just plough into the back of whatever muppet thinks it's a good idea to brake test a loaded artic. I'll be walking home - don't know whether they will or not.

It is not the responsibility of other road users to make up for your shortcomings.

Indeed...if you can't work out how to join a motorway correctly, it's not my problem.

Conor_3

scotsman4th wrote: »

I believe I said I had not seen any give way SIGNS.

So you didn't notice the dashed lines at the end of the sliproad? Are you really fit to drive? Do you think that traffic doing 70+ should give way to traffic coming off the sliproad at half that speed?

Moron.

Conor_3

Quinny wrote: »

And what makes you qualified to make such a bold statement then?

Like all the other morons who tell us how to drive them yet strangely seem to change their mind when the keys are thrown at them and they're told to do it themselves, he probably once rented a transit van for a day to move some furniture so that means he thinks he knows exactly what it's like to drive them.

banger9365

after reading this thread on the last page ,i find it funny because you can see who is a professional driver and who is not
conor and the otherHGV driver are right and you should listen to them,they have more experience on the road than any car driver(if i may call you that),they will safe your life oneday without you knowing if you listen and learn

and yes i am before you ask a hgv driver,professional depends how you look at it,experienced ho yes
(spelling and grammer not good,we cannot be good at every thing can we)

real1314

Does "he was in my blind spot" make it the other drivers fault?

HGVs may well have vast blind spots, doesn't mean that when they change lanes the rules change. The driver changing lanes is responsible for ensuring that the way is clear. If they hit another vehicle, it's their fault.

Some HGVs pull out without looking, but so do some car drivers. The rules are the same for both.

Rolandtheroadie

It's all down to the attitude of "the professional driver".

I have a blind spot, you deal with it.
I am ignorant to other road users
I drive therefore I am.
Move, I do this for a living.
What do you know.

Not limited to but includes lorry drivers, taxi drivers and bus drivers

Again conor, the post says SIGN, not LINES, not very observant for a professional driver.

70 MPH plus? I'd be past any artic already on the motorway at those speeds surely. And to be able to hit 70 AND draw out 3 inches in front of you, that would take a lot of skill.

Finally, is that what it's come down to, calling someone a moron. You old enough to hold an LGV?
Thank god the CPC training is coming in in September. I wouldnt give current drivers 5 years grace tho. Hopefully it will rid some people of their ingrained bad habits picked up over years of bad driving.