Private Parking Tickets discussion

juliescot

sismith370 wrote: »

Thought I would add my own story - well so far anyway.

My wife (who is heavily pregnant - 37 weeks) went shopping to the Merry Hill Shopping Centre in my car. She was with her friend also heavily pregnant (38 weeks). They couldn't find a space to park and (rightly or wrongly) parked in a disabled bay - the entire car park is free to park in.

A notice was on the car when she returned - and a letter followed a few weeks later from UKPC stating that no disabled badge was on display and therefor I had 7 days to pay the fine. I replied stating I was not the driver and added that I was actually at a sporting event and therefore could not be the driver.

Today I received my reply - which again pushed for payment (within 14 days at reduced charge!!!) and requested a copy of my disabled badge - sorry I can't recall when I stated I was disabled just that I was not the driver!!! There was no mention that I was not the driver - but a line that vehicle owners are basically liable...

I have sent a second letter stating I was not the driver and therefore not liable - I think they will try again to get payment. The nerve of these companies is unbelievable...:mad:

Waste of time contacting them. Don't waste your time doing it again - it is pointless

will1990

Hi i recieved two parking fines while helping a fiend move into a new flat in leicester. It was in a residentual area but each residential parking spot had its own warning sign. So i drove on up the street and noticed there were no lines outside my flatmates house. there was also no sign declaring this spot for residential parking only. I parked here and put my disabled badge up correctly. I recieved one fine within the time limit of my badge and removed it (probably not a good move) and recieved another at 7 am ish the next morning. I decided i had done nothing wrong so did not pay them and emailed them to say that i do not feel the ticket was justified, of course they sent a geitic one back saying the disagreed. I have continued to ingnore it however, i recently recieved a letter (with photo evidence which proves nothing) saying that they want £80 per ticket in 7 days it will £180. they sent this reminder on the 5/11/09 and the "parking offence" was commited on the 3/9/09. Im not sure what the next step is but i know that there was no correct sign where i parked, it was not a bay and there were no lines of any sort. Any advice would be great. Thanks

Coupon-mad

BFG wrote: »

Sigh.........

Click on this link......http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...html?t=1363571

And then read the first post........if you have any questions after that, then as suggested feel free to start your own thread

will1990, the quote above covers it. Ignore all correspondence, it's a scam!

Serendipity_phoenix

sismith370 wrote: »

Thought I would add my own story - well so far anyway.

My wife (who is heavily pregnant - 37 weeks) went shopping to the Merry Hill Shopping Centre in my car. She was with her friend also heavily pregnant (38 weeks). They couldn't find a space to park and (rightly or wrongly) parked in a disabled bay - the entire car park is free to park in.

A notice was on the car when she returned - and a letter followed a few weeks later from UKPC stating that no disabled badge was on display and therefor I had 7 days to pay the fine. I replied stating I was not the driver and added that I was actually at a sporting event and therefore could not be the driver.

Today I received my reply - which again pushed for payment (within 14 days at reduced charge!!!) and requested a copy of my disabled badge - sorry I can't recall when I stated I was disabled just that I was not the driver!!! There was no mention that I was not the driver - but a line that vehicle owners are basically liable...

I have sent a second letter stating I was not the driver and therefore not liable - I think they will try again to get payment. The nerve of these companies is unbelievable...:mad:

Going slightly off topic.....

I have to say I think companies are right in fining drivers that are not disabled who park in disabled bays.
Pregnancy is not and never will be a "disability"
If anything she should have parked in a mother and child space (like i did when very pregnant) or done like many many people have to do, wait until a space is empty.

I know this is probably not what you want to hear and the fine is probably of a ridiculous amount, but try living with a disability or a disabled person that is in agony with every step (that does not last just for 9 months) and you will not be so quick to take that space.

It is a shame fining is the only way to stop people or make people think.

peter_the_piper

Apart from the fact they are not fining anyone just charging them a fee for parking, there have been cases where ladies have done as you say and parked in c&p bays and got stung. Reason:- being pregnant is not the same as having a child. PPC's will think of any reason possible to screw money out of you. Common sense ideas like yours have no validity in ppc land.

trisontana

digitalsgirl wrote: »

Going slightly off topic.....

I have to say I think companies are right in fining drivers that are not disabled who park in disabled bays.
Pregnancy is not and never will be a "disability"
If anything she should have parked in a mother and child space (like i did when very pregnant) or done like many many people have to do, wait until a space is empty.

I know this is probably not what you want to hear and the fine is probably of a ridiculous amount, but try living with a disability or a disabled person that is in agony with every step (that does not last just for 9 months) and you will not be so quick to take that space.

It is a shame fining is the only way to stop people or make people think.

It's not a "fine" and I would like to quote this extract from a letter that Coupon-mad sent to Sainsbury's:-

I also said I believe that introducing a restriction of their disabled bays to 'Blue Badge holders only' (also emblazoned on the dreadful leaflet) seems to me to fall outside of the DDA obligations which are statutory for any retailer which provides car parking spaces.

The DDA definition of a disabled person is very clear (and it doesn't include 'having a Blue Badge'). AFAIK, disabled bays provided by retailers must be available to anyone who meets the DDA definition of disability. If not, then they are treating some disabled people differently (people who rarely travel by car, or foreign visitors, may fit the DDA decription but wouldn't be expected to have a BB).

I also pointed out that BB's have no legal status on private land anyway, in case they or their PPC's have overlooked that fact.

Serendipity_phoenix

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Apart from the fact they are not fining anyone just charging them a fee for parking, there have been cases where ladies have done as you say and parked in c&p bays and got stung. Reason:- being pregnant is not the same as having a child. PPC's will think of any reason possible to screw money out of you. Common sense ideas like yours have no validity in ppc land.

Yes true most are just crooks,(I've been stung myself at a service station, unfortunately before this tread..... and paid!) but places like tesco? (i think I'm naming the right store) that fine repeat "offenders" I think are right, as it is just common sense and consideration of others.

Serendipity_phoenix

trisontana wrote: »

It's not a "fine" and I would like to quote this extract from a letter that Coupon-mad sent to Sainsbury's:-

I also said I believe that introducing a restriction of their disabled bays to 'Blue Badge holders only' (also emblazoned on the dreadful leaflet) seems to me to fall outside of the DDA obligations which are statutory for any retailer which provides car parking spaces.

The DDA definition of a disabled person is very clear (and it doesn't include 'having a Blue Badge'). AFAIK, disabled bays provided by retailers must be available to anyone who meets the DDA definition of disability. If not, then they are treating some disabled people differently (people who rarely travel by car, or foreign visitors, may fit the DDA decription but wouldn't be expected to have a BB).

I also pointed out that BB's have no legal status on private land anyway, in case they or their PPC's have overlooked that fact.

Definition of 'disability' under the Disability Discrimination Act (DDA)


The Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) defines a disabled person as someone who has a physical or mental impairment that has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on his or her ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.


This is does not mean pregnancy or if you are only going to be 5 minutes or if your having an off day or there are no other spaces!

juliescot

digitalsgirl wrote: »

Yes true most are just crooks,(I've been stung myself at a service station, unfortunately before this tread..... and paid!) but places like tesco? (i think I'm naming the right store) that fine repeat "offenders" I think are right, as it is just common sense and consideration of others.

How do they identify these repeat offenders?

Why not set up a proper system rather than extort money from people?

juliescot

digitalsgirl wrote: »

Definition of 'disability' under the Disability Discrimination Act (DDA)


The Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) defines a disabled person as someone who has a physical or mental impairment that has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on his or her ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.


This is does not mean pregnancy or if you are only going to be 5 minutes or if your having an off day or there are no other spaces!

You may have missed the point relating to blue badges in the earlier post