Private Parking Tickets discussion

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DENELEY

10 days ago I received a 'parking charge notice ' from Athena parking for allegedly parking in a Lidl car park for a total of nearly 5 hours when in fact I'd been to the car park twice that day. They took the first entry photo and the last exit photo and completely ignored the exit and re-entry inbetween to tell me I had been there nearly 5 hours, a parking contravention.
I emailed Athena asking for a copy of the printout from their database for the times in question on that day. Within a few hours I got an email from Athena stating they were forwarding my email to Lidl HQ for them to have a look at the data and then decide.
I also wrote to Lidl HQ stating the true circumstances, that possibly Athena were 'misinterpreting' data and would they kindly cancel the notice?
A few days later Lidl and Athena letters arrived on the doormat at the same time cancelling the 'parking charge notice'. In their letter Lidl said they thought 45.00 was fair?
I may be wrong but have Lidl turned a blind eye to Athena's dirty tactics in attempting to collect money from anybody who is scared into sending it to them? Needless to say, from now on I willl only use a Lidl car park as a very very last resort and I will almost certainly never shop at Lidl again.

P.S The DVLA take Athena's money and give them any personal details they request.

Crabman

Deneley - Welcome to MSE

The DVLA make many millions in profit out of selling our details to these cowboys and it has helped breed an entire industry based on threats and lies.

What is important is you haven't paid the scammers, but in future you can save yourself the obvious trouble & stress of having to make contact and argue with them by just ignoring them.

They make their money from people who capitulate under the threats and lies regarding court, CCJ's and bailiffs. They don't do court because they know they'd lose.

juliacpaul

I'm secretary of a sailing club which pays a lot of money for its seafront position. After years of the public deciding they won't bother paying for council parking next door, we've embarked on a private parking scheme.

We're not in it to make money or make people's lives a misery. We just want our members to be able to enjoy what they've paid for.

My message is: don't park on private land unless you have the right to. If you do, expect some penalty!

trisontana

juliacpaul wrote: »

I'm secretary of a sailing club which pays a lot of money for its seafront position. After years of the public deciding they won't bother paying for council parking next door, we've embarked on a private parking scheme.

We're not in it to make money or make people's lives a misery. We just want our members to be able to enjoy what they've paid for.

My message is: don't park on private land unless you have the right to. If you do, expect some penalty!

But how are going to fix that penalty? Remember that if you take anyone to court you can only claim for material loss. Anything more is illegal. If your members don't pay anything to park, then you have not suffered any material loss. The best solution is to install barriers or fold-down bollards.

peter_the_piper

juliacpaul wrote: »

I'm secretary of a sailing club which pays a lot of money for its seafront position. After years of the public deciding they won't bother paying for council parking next door, we've embarked on a private parking scheme.

We're not in it to make money or make people's lives a misery. We just want our members to be able to enjoy what they've paid for.

My message is: don't park on private land unless you have the right to. If you do, expect some penalty!

Can't disagree with what you say but do not be surprised when the PPC start ticketing your own people because the permit was a)upside down. b) right way up but he could'nt be a**** to look. c) permit fell off. d) parked 1" outside line because the Captain parked a bit off and they would'nt ticket him, too much grief.
e) ppc had a bad day abd wanted to ticket someone, this would come in post 6 weeks later when you'd not be able to remember what happened.
I expect we could do more of the alphabet you get the drift.;)

herbie-152

juliacpaul wrote: »

I'm secretary of a sailing club which pays a lot of money for its seafront position. After years of the public deciding they won't bother paying for council parking next door, we've embarked on a private parking scheme.

We're not in it to make money or make people's lives a misery. We just want our members to be able to enjoy what they've paid for.

My message is: don't park on private land unless you have the right to. If you do, expect some penalty!

juliacpaul, this forum is not about encouraging people to park on private land without the permission of the owner. I couldn't agree with you more that we should all respect land that belongs to others and not park on it. I for one would never park my car where I didn't have permission, nor would I wilfully not pay or go over an indicated time limit. I would however refuse to pay a "fine" if I was given one in a private car park.

What it is about, is the abuse and frankly illegal activity of private parking operators. If you want to keep your car park for your members' use, and why wouldn't you, then there are other ways of doing this than employing a company that will arbitrarily issue fines with no legal basis and then frighten people into paying.

You have a fantastic opportunity here to take a lead and sack the private parking enforcers and install some bollards or a barrier.

wacko268

Dear All

First and foremost all matters must be set forth in LAW.

We have a common law of the land which states that all men are equal.
No levy may be set upon a sovereign human being, that being the case, many are being charged for parking on private land and their automobiles being towed away.
In order for that to happen, 1: we must have a contract between both parties involved.
2: If no contract exists then no charge can be meeted out.

Everything is done in contract statute.
Statutes, Acts, Codes of Practice and Policies do not apply to you.
What does apply is the law of the land, the universal laws that GOD Almighty set out to govern all men / women.
It is an illegal criminal offence against a human being to enforce statutes, acts, codes and policies as these are only given the force of law but are not the law.
These things only govern those who are under the corporation which upholds thes statutes, acts, codes and policies.
There is a term which is called the 'Penalty of Perjury'.

Let me explain: If you do not have a contract between you and the aforesaid mentioned company which has given you a parking ticket or clamped your car, they are in dis-honor. It is very inportant that you write to them asking for a copy of the contract between you and them under the penalty of perjury.

This is your first notice to the said corporation.
Obviously if you have no signed contract they cannot force you to pay.
They are acting in dishonor and you will be by force of common law be refunded the full amout when contesting this in a court of law.
They will not reply of course because that would admit their guilt in trying to charge you.

Write them a letter asking for the reason upon Law that give them the right to charge you.

I must mention at this point that I am not a Barrister or Solicitor so please do not ask me for legal advice.

Check out the laws on these subjects and you will find that it is in your favour and best interest to check the laws out on these matters.

Peace.

Coblcris

A contract can be entered by action, there is no absolute need for a written contract.