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PLEASE NO MORE posts callng Kirstie Allsopp names

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  • fatpig_2
    fatpig_2 Posts: 631 Forumite
    fatpig wrote: »
    I promise never to call Krusty Allcrap rude names ever again
    I promise never to call Krusty Allcrap rude names ever again
    I promise never to call Krusty Allcrap rude names ever again
    I promise never to call Krusty Allcrap rude names ever again
    I promise never to call Krusty Allcrap rude names ever again
    I promise never to call Krusty Allcrap rude names ever again
    I promise never to call Krusty Allcrap rude names ever again
    I promise never to call Krusty Allcrap rude names ever again
    I promise never to call Krusty Allcrap rude names ever again
    I promise never to call Krusty Allcrap rude names ever again
    I really, really tried but the silly moo has just been on London Tonight practically saying that a stamp duty cut would solve the Economic Crisis :eek:
  • Is it just me ???
    Who is Kirsty Allsop ?
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  • huntersc
    huntersc Posts: 424 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    No no no

    Again, threads using the term 'credit crunch' ( as in the comming credit crunch) were posted on that forum back in early 2005.
    Some on there really did see this comming.

    Ha! Yeah, so did I. The term 'credit crunch' is not new. I happened to work for BARCAP a few years back. I was well aware of the potential of a crunch. I remember a colleague of mine briefed the BBC about the crunch, back in 2004 I think. I did a quick search, can't find the specific article but even this one shows that the term credit crunch was well known in the mainstream press by 2005. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4514207.stm

    So we all knew about a credit crunch. We've actually had a few since 1999, it's the severity that's important. No one could predict the severity of what has happened nor the exact causes. I was ideally placed to but I had no clue. If I did, or if the HPC lot did then I and they would have quit our jobs and made millions, no, billions and retired nicely.

    Again, it's easy to say "There will be a credit crunch" especially whe the mainstream press are already reporting it and when you don't give a timeframe.

    The people on HPC are lunatics. When they do get something right it's luck.

    I see them posting about Inflation, deflation, crashes, Japan, I read it and most of it is drivel. It's a collection of unqualified plonkers taking pleasure in other people's misfortune in the hope that they benefit.
  • fatpig_2
    fatpig_2 Posts: 631 Forumite
    Sailor_Sam wrote: »
    Is it just me ???
    Who is Kirsty Allsop ?
    In a nutshell, Channel 4's chief property ramper
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Sailor_Sam wrote: »
    Is it just me ???
    Who is Kirsty Allsop ?

    No not just you, I had never heard of her before I found this board, even then I thought she was called Krusty :D I thought it was that clown in Simpsons.
    I have to say some of these HPC types seem to know a lot about her and her programmes.
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  • Mezcita
    Mezcita Posts: 287 Forumite
    I think you guys are missing the point.

    This wasn't (just) some ditzy bird on a property program.

    There's a video on this very thread where Krusty went on a serious news program, was introduced by the news reader as "our resident property guru", had the title under her name when it came up of "Property Expert"and went on to state the fact on that news program that (and I quote)

    "There isn't going to be a market crash, there may well be a leveling off in the prices".

    This at a time where there was much informed (and indeed correct) speculation that there could be.

    To give such investment advice on a news program to people to whom she'd been presented to as an expert is just beyond comprehension.

    So no I don't see this as being like Clarkson on Top Gear saying "Buy a Lamborghini, they're great", this is like a serious investment commentator stating (for instance) that you are absolutely safe buying Northern Rock shares, there will not be a falling in share price. If you'd bought Northern Rock shares on the back of that fact quoted to you by an expect on a serious news program, and there had then followed a big drop in share value, what would you think?

    More to the point, what would you think if the "expert" turned out to have a vested interest in the sales of Northern Rock shares doing well (as Krusty had a vested interest in property prices doing well)?


    Meh. Big deal. She expressed an opinion and was wrong. If people want to put blind faith in what one person off the telly advises, then they deserve whatever they end up losing.

    So here's a plan:

    1. Buy a book about property.
    2. Buy lots more books about property.
    3. Read papers, magazines and newspapers about the market.
    4. Make an informed decision.

    Or else, just blame Kirsty when you get burnt.
  • JonnyBravo wrote: »
    So???


    You've never heard a wrong "expert" opinion before?

    Try these....


    "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." -- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943

    "We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out." -- Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.

    "Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're crazy." -- Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859.

    "$100 million dollars is way too much to pay for Microsoft." -- IBM, 1982




    People really need to learn to think for themselves..... and guess what.... we'll all still make some mistakes. :eek:

    A real shock, I know.

    Nice sarcasm, well done you. :rolleyes:

    Of course people make mistakes, but she didn't even couch it that "in her opinion", she stated and re stated it as fact in a capacity as an expert and whilst having a very vested interest to do so.

    The thread is about why Krusty is so vilified, that is the reason. The fact that she continually tried (and no doubt succeeded in many cases) to abuse her position to ramp property because it suited her to do so and to believe it.

    She mislead people who were not expert on one of the biggest investment decisions of their lives.

    Pointing at other people and saying "well they made mistakes too" doesn't excuse anything I'm afraid, not many of the general public were investing huge sums of money in the Beatles.
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  • Mezcita wrote: »
    Meh. Big deal. She expressed an opinion and was wrong. If people want to put blind faith in what one person off the telly advises, then they deserve whatever they end up losing.

    So here's a plan:

    1. Buy a book about property.
    2. Buy lots more books about property.
    3. Read papers, magazines and newspapers about the market.
    4. Make an informed decision.

    Or else, just blame Kirsty when you get burnt.

    Why bother watching the news for expert opinion if it's "stupid" to take any notice of it? :confused:
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  • huntersc wrote: »
    Ha! Yeah, so did I. The term 'credit crunch' is not new. I happened to work for BARCAP a few years back. I was well aware of the potential of a crunch. I remember a colleague of mine briefed the BBC about the crunch, back in 2004 I think. I did a quick search, can't find the specific article but even this one shows that the term credit crunch was well known in the mainstream press by 2005. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4514207.stm

    So we all knew about a credit crunch. We've actually had a few since 1999, it's the severity that's important. No one could predict the severity of what has happened nor the exact causes. I was ideally placed to but I had no clue. If I did, or if the HPC lot did then I and they would have quit our jobs and made millions, no, billions and retired nicely.

    Again, it's easy to say "There will be a credit crunch" especially whe the mainstream press are already reporting it and when you don't give a timeframe.

    The people on HPC are lunatics. When they do get something right it's luck.

    I see them posting about Inflation, deflation, crashes, Japan, I read it and most of it is drivel. It's a collection of unqualified plonkers taking pleasure in other people's misfortune in the hope that they benefit.

    I agree and I post on ther every day, its great fun
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  • Mezcita
    Mezcita Posts: 287 Forumite
    Why bother watching the news for expert opinion if it's "stupid" to take any notice of it? :confused:

    Just because somebody is on TV, it hardly makes them an expert.

    Ever see that Craig fella from Big Brother on those DIY shows? Talks a lot about home improvement so he must be a complete boffin.....

    I didn't use the word "stupid" but would suggest that it is completely "stupid" to blame her for all of this.

    :money:
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