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motorguy

ZootHornRollo wrote: »

or maybe you are taking this a little bit too far.

my point is that in order that when we write or speak people can understand what we are talking about, we need to use adjectives in order that we can differentiate between different objects/people/places etc etc. what one person finds offensive another probably won't. stop being a !!!! about it.

Yes, thats correct, however the adjective you used was wrong. Its not Belfast, Ireland its Belfast, Northern Ireland.

In the same way that someone from say, south america might wrongly define you as being 'english'. I am sure you would correct their ignorance, as we are trying to do with you.

beccam

ZootHornRollo wrote: »

100% of northern irish people i know refer to themselves as irish - and two of them were raised as protestants!

It has nothing to do with religion as many Protestants will have a nationalist view point and vice versa.

beccam

ZootHornRollo wrote: »

maybe you could enlighten me as to what a neutral term would be to describe both irish and british citizens of northen ireland and i shall be sure to use it constantly so as not to cause offense.

eh?......Northern Irish perhaps? What would you call someone from South Africa? (south african incase you didn't know)

I take offence to being called Irish because I'm not, I hold a British passport, live in a country governed by a British Government, work for a British public sector employer (NHS) and both earn and spend my great British pound!!
No part of me is Irish, and that is not to say I am some sort of Unionist radical it is simply my opinion and also fact.

beccam

soolin wrote: »

It is also in Ireland and if you address something to them it will be sent to Belfast, Ireland and then a postcode. It does not go to Belfast UK then postcode.

The Irish are justly proud of their heritage and trying to pretend that Ireland as an entity does not exist is bound to anger. Try telling a someone from Inverness that they don't come from Scotland and see how well they take that!

Actually if I order anything internationally or enter my address for forms on line it is Belfast, Northern Ireland or Belfast, United Kingdom. If I entered Ireland it would be going to a different country!?

Of course Ireland exists, its a very beautiful country full of very lovely people, but Northern Ireland also exists ~ as part of GB!!

StaffsSW

Is it only me that has noticed the irony in the signature?

ZootHornRollo wrote: »

The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits

ZootHornRollo

i apologies profusely to the muppets who have picked me up for a small error. 100% of the northern irish people i know call themselves irish, i used this as the basis of using the word in the first place. oh how silly do i feel!!!

you all clearly have too little going on in your lives that you have jumped onto this with such vigor. we are clearly never going to agree going this matter.

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motorguy

ZootHornRollo wrote: »

i apologies profusely to the muppets who have picked me up for a small error. 100% of the northern irish people i know call themselves irish, i used this as the basis of using the word in the first place. oh how silly do i feel!!!

you all clearly have too little going on in your lives that you have jumped onto this with such vigor. we are clearly never going to agree going this matter.

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We all make mistakes, its how we respond to constructive criticism of those mistakes that defines in peoples minds what sort of person you are.

Maybe you should ponder that.

jammin_2

ZootHornRollo wrote: »

i apologies profusely to the muppets who have picked me up for a small error. 100% of the northern irish people i know call themselves irish, i used this as the basis of using the word in the first place. oh how silly do i feel!!!

you all clearly have too little going on in your lives that you have jumped onto this with such vigor. we are clearly never going to agree going this matter.

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ZootHornRollo, please refrain from the personal insults. Calling people muppets for politely correcting a mistake you have made, while attempting to educate you on the constituent country of Northern Ireland, within the United Kingdom, just further demonstrates your ignorance.

100% of Northern Irish people you know call themselves Irish. Right, so you do, in fact, already know that the correct term to refer to the people of Northern Ireland is, "Northern Irish"? I think your ignorance is self-inflicted. That aside, and has been stated previously, there are many people who live in Northern Ireland who are Irish. The majority though, are British, as Northern Ireland is British.

beccam wrote: »

..but Northern Ireland also exists ~ as part of GB!!

Just to be pedantic, NI is part of the UK, but not part of GB.

StaffsSW

ZootHornRollo wrote: »

i apologies profusely to the muppets who have picked me up for a small error. 100% of the northern irish people i know call themselves irish, i used this as the basis of using the word in the first place. oh how silly do i feel!!!

you all clearly have too little going on in your lives that you have jumped onto this with such vigor. we are clearly never going to agree going this matter.

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Knowing when to back down graciously, with tact and diplomacy is a useful life skill. Blind ignorance such as demonstrated by yourself is shameful given the amount of blood shed and lives lost over the last 80 years.

It may not mean much to you, but to some people it is a subject VERY close to their hearts.

You could do well to learn a little about what goes on your own doorstep, but I really do fear that you are not capable of understanding the severity and depth.

ormus

i have family in co mayo, Eire (catholics), and my wifes fathers family is from belfast, N.I. (prodys).
every single one of them calls themselves, Irish.