council house overcrowding/medical, HelpPlease, im in a mess and need good advice!!!

lynnexxxo

Why not move the sofa and telly into the kitchen diner and have the living room as a bedroom. Or even get a sofa bed that can go up and down?

JimmyTheWig

silvercar wrote: »

Sounds like someone needs to be in bunk beds.

Just a thought, you can gte bunk beds with a double at the bottom and a single at the top. Far from ideal, but if there's nothing else you can think of then you could put that in your room and your 4yo could have the top bunk.


The other thing I thought was get your 19yo to move out (hold on - carry on reading before you say "no") then apply for a 4-bed house with an extra room then once in you could move your 19yo back in again.
Possibly dishonest, but not immoral imho.

mishmash

I think the 4 year old with his older brother is the option I would go for.

My 3 year old sleeps in with me, she has her own bed in my room (not that she uses it lol), as her sisters room is really tiny (eldest daughter 15). I also have 2 boys who share.

If I was in your position, with a 4 year old in a cot and a husband on the sofa I would put the lkittle one in with the one of the older children.

Would the council consider a loft conversion, cheaper and not as much disruption for the older boy?

Mish

Loretta

I think for the time being the best idea is turning the living room into a bedroom and using kitchen diner as living room, moving ill daughter into a quieter room.

Family conference is a good idea, they may come up with all sorts of ideas.

It is no good writing to your MP, doctor's letters etc, if they don't have any 5 bed houses that's it.

In the long term an extension would be the best bet

Most 19 year olds are not ready to move out and your son may feel responsible and can offer help with your family with all the problems

barnaby-bear

kadiekaismummi wrote: »

and regards to my 19 year old, no way will he go, he loves home too much, he told us hes going to stay here forever, guess much easier for him.......... my housing officer has even told me that they will give him a 1 bed flat to ease the overcrowding, but we dont want to split our family up, and nor does he.......

19 year olds usually only entitled to a room in a shared house under new regs and single young men usually a very low priority - so this 19 year old is turning down a the opportunity of his own flat with secure tenure at cheap rent.... his own flat where he can have a social life and take girls back and stuff... A 19 year old who wants to live with his mum "forever".

Loads of people (most people actually) can't afford to rent or buy a 4-bed let alone a 5-bed and manage. You've an adult who could be independent in your household and are choosing overcrowding.

Anyone else think this is a bit weird?

silvercar

barnaby-bear wrote: »

19 year olds usually only entitled to a room in a shared house under new regs and single young men usually a very low priority - so this 19 year old is turning down a the opportunity of his own flat with secure tenure at cheap rent.... his own flat where he can have a social life and take girls back and stuff... A 19 year old who wants to live with his mum "forever".

Loads of people (most people actually) can't afford to rent or buy a 4-bed let alone a 5-bed and manage. You've an adult who could be independent in your household and are choosing overcrowding.

Anyone else think this is a bit weird?

Not at all. The government may like to class 19 year olds as independent adults but they are not. With the government wanting everyone to stay on at school and if possible to go on to higher education, its a bit rich to say once they are 19 they should leave the family home. A 19 year old will do far better in life with the support of their family, than being throwm out and told to fend for themselves.

JodyBPM

There are loads of options open to you to re-organise the space. Off the top of my head they are:

1. Use living room as bedroom for yourself and DH and LO gets your old room. (could use pull out sofabed and reconvert to living space during the day if necessary)
2. 19 yr old moves out.
3. Fill in the forms for extension.
4. 16yr old moves into 19yr old's current small b/room and 19yro and 4yro share her larger room. Maybe quieter that side of the house too?
5. Look into options in the garden for your 19yro eg Caravan, garden lodge etc. He'd prob love the bit of independence, but could still have family meals, washing done etc. (You'd need to check planning permission first)

Honestly, there are so many options, and you seem to be rejecting them all, so my guess is that the accom itself isn't really the issue. You've got a lot on your plate, and I think that you're focussing on a bigger house solving all your problems, but as someone else already mentioned I think, if you do move house, all your problems will come with you!

Good Luck, and try to rejig things so that yourself, ds and dh all get some sleep. All the other problems will seem easier to deal with if you have a good night's sleep.

GracieP

silvercar wrote: »

The government may like to class 19 year olds as independent adults but they are not.

They can be. My parents were married at 18 and 19 and they were both responsible adults. Most 19 year olds would be completely capable of being independent adults if they choose. But for the most part we choose extended adolescence and would be better off not shirking responsibility for so long. I moved out of home at 23, not because I was incapable of looking after myself before then. But because I had it too good at home.

shellnapier

have u thought about a loft conversion??
or taking the largest room turning into too rooms, and give each room to teh two yougest childern, put the 19 yr old in the room with all the noise, teh 16 ur old int eh 19 yr olds room

or have you thought about setting up a sofa bed int eh living room, people i know have that beside me aswaiting for a bigger house.

i know its hard, but if there are no 5 bedroom house you just wnt get one

kadiekaismummi

vivatifosi wrote: »

Have any of the larger bedrooms got more than one window? If so, you may be able to get a stud-work partition erected to split the room into two. This is an easy job and may solve the problem quickly.

No, they havent, have we have thought about dividng a room, but they are just not big enough....but thanks