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Enquiry about benefits and housing?

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  • foxxymynx
    foxxymynx Posts: 1,270 Forumite
    I don't wish to know the ins and outs of you wanting a child - it's none of my business. However I will say, don't have a child in order to get rehomed - it doesn't work. People are put in hostels all too often for weeks, months or even years before they're offered a home. Of course this all also depends on the area in which you live.

    If you both intend to be students, financially it will be very tough. Students in general have a tough time paying bills and feeding themselves etc, add into the mix a baby and it's alot harder. What I would advise you do, if you're adamant on trying for a child now, put off going to uni for a few years, until any child/children are at school and get a job, so you can rent a home for you and your girlfriend instead of relying on the state to fund you. If you're a student and the prospective child is at school, your girlfriend will have to work to support you all, and when she studies, vice versa.

    If your girlfriend is 16 and has left compulsary education, she should get a job too.

    If you want a child, you must be prepared to take on the responsibilities that come with having a child. You can't expect the state to pay for you, your girlfriend and child while you study.
    If my typing is pants or I seem partcuarly blunt, please excuse me, it physically hurts to type. :wall: If I seem a bit random and don't make a lot of sense, it may have something to do with the voice recognition software that I'm using!
  • SuziQ
    SuziQ Posts: 3,042 Forumite
    If you are genuine you both need to be force fed contraception.

    You are at Uni-giving you choice,which will be totally negated by having a child so young.

    I was a health visitor for twenty-odd years and saw countless youngsters in your position-the only difference being,they hadn't planned it,it was an 'accident'-which they often went on to bitterly regret and resent!

    I found looking after children hard aged 30 (when I had my first),even though we had our own lovely home and very good incomes between us. I am now a mother of 3,unfortunately on benefits at the moment-and believe me,and many others on here who will tell you IT AIN'T NO PICNIC!

    When I was your age I was heading into my career and looking forward to all sorts of exciting things-further education,career,great social life,travel-and I did all those things before having children. Thank goodness I did,as it would have been virtually impossible for me after I had children!

    You both need a reality pill to be honest-if either of you had any sense maturity you would not be considering this at all.

    Rant over-off to take a chill-pill!
    Tomorrow is always fresh, with no mistakes in it!
  • You are far to young to be thinking about having a baby. Neither you or your girl-friend are in a financial position to have a baby. Get your education out of the way, find yourselves a flat/house and after you have been working/settled a couple of years think again. I think possibly you only posted to wind people up because of the way your post was worded. BUT if not i have been homeless twice in 10 years with children. I am disabled as are my children and even then getting the council to find us a place to live was an uphill struggle. Both times we started off in B&B for a month, then a hostal for 1 and a half years. You will have to all live in one little room possibly having to share a bathroom and kitchen with other families. One of the places we lived had been a squat before the council used it as B&B and they left the urine soaked carperts down and the kitchen was discusting. It is no picnic. If you have family they will expect you to stay with them and if they found out that your g/f got pregennt on purpose that will go against you. They will reduce you to a quivering wreck i can tell you, they are like the nazis. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life. Also should she have a baby and you split up you are the one that will have to pay for the next 20 years.
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    the OP appears to have disappeared

    I just think he was a wind up merchant, endorsing the level of his
    maturity and inteligence.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • Ok so here's my question...(not a good opening consider expanding the introduction)
    I am currently (why are you using ‘currently’) 18 years old, my partner is 16, and we are both planning for a child. How – are you working/saving?? No, I thought not....Is your ‘partner’ actually legally capable of making this decision...

    Don't talk me out of it as i (should be a capital like this ‘I’) and my partner are dead certain (based on? Split infinitive by the way ). So right what i (as above) want to know is mainly about council housing,(is mainly?? Try concerns) when we are certain she is pregnant what do we do to get it? (Do you even know how to check?) I should just write (no, perhaps not) call the council and tell them of your plans – so they have time to prepare something suitable for you....5 or 6 bedrooms do you think?

    Once we have applied are we certain to get it and how long will it take? Here are some details... Her household at present is a two bedroomed house but with 5 people in, (her parents I take it) 2 being children..(then again) So would the council suggest the baby staying here? With such responsible and capable people yes I expect so....

    Or at mine we have 3 bedrooms, one being a single room though there are 5 people staying there so would they suggest taking the baby here? No I expect they will have started building in preparation...

    Ok so on top of that how much would it cost? Oh interesting thought – you are thinking of joining in at some point?

    I mean i'm going to uni and so student loans will help me fund Yes of course...what are you thinking of honouring us with?

    any if i am actually required to, will me being in full time education help? Also she plans to do a part time course at college, teaching assistant. So will i have to pay? If so how much? No of course not, the house, the degree, the course all free – no one is ever required to pay anything in its wonderful isn’t it?

    On top of this i am working part time, less than 16 hours a week most of the time... So would this have an effect? From the paper round? No you keep your £10 at Christmas, don’t worry the rest of the country will manage without it – oh, you’d like a Christmas Bonus
    So one more thing, as shes (no, you have split a word so you need a comma)
    in full time education or work (so that would be school) would there any benefits we could claim to help us? Thank you Umm I think we should also fund the conception – you may need to look that one up in a dictionary – its a big book with words....perhaps a week or two somewhere warm, would that help

    2/10 More effort required – Now go outside and play...


    Ok yours has been the best reply... so here you go...

    I am currently working at JD Wetherspoons and hoping to have saved around £3000 for when the baby comes around. So yeah dont slate me for a few questions i ask, i came here for advice... If you can't give it me, perhaps because you dont know yourselves?

    Anyways i will be paying rent if need be and i have spoke to my manager at work and she would allow me to go full time if i so wished and therefore i would then choose to go private.

    We are certain of a baby as we believe it to be the next step, we are engaged and were her family to know i wouldn't be on here as her mom went through the same thing at the same age.

    Secondly there is no need to criticise my grammer as it is not an English forum, correct?

    She is at college not school so when the baby does come around she will be 17, she is legal of any decision she makes as if i am right in what i think then at 16 and being out of secondary school you have the right to live where you like or do as you like within the law.

    I asked about fee's for perhaps rent etc not uni as i have worked out how much my course would be £3145 a year along with book costs etc that will come to around £200 a year.

    I have considered my options while at university and once claiming for everything possible i will not have a need to go into to much debt due to bursaries and the care to learn scheme.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Shadow919 wrote: »



    I have considered my options while at university and once claiming for everything possible i will not have a need to go into to much debt due to bursaries and the care to learn scheme.

    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
  • Hello Shadow. I am still not convinced this is serious. Sorry, legal or not if you were dating my 16 year old daughter I will chase you into next week. I don't have a daughter before you ask; but somewhere if this is real; is a very worried woman.
    Have you thought what you would do if you had a 16yr old? Before her life had even began the whole of her future set out by 18yr old boy? I suspect you would bar the front door with planks...
    University...mmm...interesting thought, doing what do you think? Have you any though as to how you would cope with the course if you can't string together a paragraph or two?
    Still no doubt you are the future. How lucky we are.
  • TOBRUK
    TOBRUK Posts: 2,343 Forumite
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    Shadow919 wrote: »
    I asked about fee's for perhaps rent etc not uni as i have worked out how much my course would be £3145 a year along with book costs etc that will come to around £200 a year.

    I have considered my options while at university and once claiming for everything possible i will not have a need to go into to much debt due to bursaries and the care to learn scheme.

    You may have worked out the course costs and book costs, however you haven't considered living costs! You will have to pay for your housing costs as students at uni have to pay for a room at uni, or rent to live out as they do not receive help for this. If you rent a place you will have utility costs to cover yourself, you will also have to buy food and clothing and anything else you require. There are no students I know of that do not have a huge debt when they qualify - you are talking of thousands and is unavoidable I'm afraid.

    I take it (from reading your first post) that you are living at home, or your girlfriends home if you are living together. If so, can I ask whether you are contributing to the houshold bills or paying rent/paying for your keep? Have you any idea of the running costs of a home; utility bills, council tax etc? This isn't a dig but I wonder if you don't contribute at present it may be an idea to perhaps look at the costs and just write all this down working out whether you could afford it by working out a budget say for one month, writing down your incomings and outgoings, include all utility bills, food, clothing and other to see what the outcome is.

    I am trying to be helpful because if you go ahead this is something you will have to do and even though you say you will have saved three thousand pounds or so for when the baby arrives I'm afraid that you may find that this money will disappear with other costs.
  • healy
    healy Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    By the way it is grammar not grammer. As for the rest I agree with the above.
  • Sherrie
    Sherrie Posts: 72 Forumite
    Shadow

    I can understand to a point how much you and your partner want a baby, history has a tendency to repeat itself most children tend to grow up and behave in the same way their parents did. However, have you truly thought of the implications of having a baby will have? Its easy for us all here to say oh you're too young get on with your life, have kids later etc etc, but to you and your g/f this is only probably going to have the effect of you wanting to do it more. Have a really good think about your life so far and your g/f life so far, what would you have changed about it, if there was anything you could have changed how could it have been done? At times, you won't admit it to anyone but it will be in your mind, you will resent the baby, you will want to go out with your g/f, having to lug around a load of baby gear is not the greatest of things to do.

    I have an 18, 17 and a 9 year old, because I had my oldest when I was 19, I couldn't continue with my studies because the baby took over, money was very very tight, so i'm now in part-time study and believe me my time is precious, I have to make time to study, with a baby it is much more demanding and your feelings will change once he/she is born and hopefully you will want to spend more time with him/her, think about the dilemma's this will cause, some babies are very very demanding, others are not so, but a baby who is kept to a routine at home with mum or dad is much easier to look after. If you're so desperate to have a baby, why not wait 6 months and see how you still feel, if you desperately want that baby, 6 months is no time to wait at all, be kind to yourselves and enjoy life whilst you can

    The other thing I would say is, you don't really know what someone is like until you have lived alone with them. You should try and set up home with your g/f before you have a baby so you can get used to each other before the baby comes along.

    If you would like any advice privately then feel free to pm me
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