New building very very noisy at night

cbobting

Paparika wrote: »

I've since found a slight blunder and i wonder if those that know planning permission can advise.

We have had meetings with the new owners of the car park who stated that the car park will close 30 minutes after the last venue has closed which would be the cinema at 3.am .
yet...... on all advertising it says its open 23/7

you say your being kept awake all night, now complaining that they are not open long enough?

beecher

Paparika wrote: »

So if a very large building was built outside your house and the lights were on 24/7 shone brightly into your bedroom at night, you wouldn't complain, feel disgruntled?

I don't want to drug myself up with sleeping pills, or use earplugs, what if there was a fire and i didn't hear people shouting, or if my son needed me during the night, or if i got burgled.......

Cannon Fodder thanks for the advice yes that sounds a good route to take.

If lights were shining brightly into my bedroom, and buying cheap blinds would solve the problem, then I'd think it was crazy not to buy them! That doesn't mean you can't complain, though if I was renting, I'd simply move rather than stress myself out.

when you talk about 'the owners', do you mean the council? I can't see them realistically buying you blinds or installing triple glazing.

Paparika

cbobting wrote: »

you say your being kept awake all night, now complaining that they are not open long enough?

No.... I am complaining because they have said one thing and done another, rather than be kept awake till 3.30 ish, we are now kept awake all night

beecher wrote: »

If lights were shining brightly into my bedroom, and buying cheap blinds would solve the problem, then I'd think it was crazy not to buy them! That doesn't mean you can't complain, though if I was renting, I'd simply move rather than stress myself out.

when you talk about 'the owners', do you mean the council? I can't see them realistically buying you blinds or installing triple glazing.

The owners are not council, no one seems to know who the new owners are.
I would love to just move, but i can't afford move to private accommodation, and the best i can do is to join the thousands bidding on one house, the housing bidding system seems a bit mad atm

olly300

beecher wrote: »

If lights were shining brightly into my bedroom, and buying cheap blinds would solve the problem, then I'd think it was crazy not to buy them! That doesn't mean you can't complain, though if I was renting, I'd simply move rather than stress myself out.

when you talk about 'the owners', do you mean the council? I can't see them realistically buying you blinds or installing triple glazing.

Like you I don't understand this.

If £12 blinds would help limit the amount of light going into my room I would buy them and keep the receipts. You could then get more or even enough sleep to give you the energy to chase up the people causing the problem. And you could eventually get them to reimburse you.

The OP sounds like they are cutting their nose off to spit their face.

beecher

Paparika wrote: »

The owners are not council, no one seems to know who the new owners are.
I would love to just move, but i can't afford move to private accommodation, and the best i can do is to join the thousands bidding on one house, the housing bidding system seems a bit mad atm

You don't know who owns your flat? Who do you pay rent to?

I am sure black out blinds would make a huge difference. As for the noise, you may get used to it in time. When a nightclub opened up across the road from me it was hard at first, but now I'm used to my earplugs and don't even notice it.

From a practical point of view, is it possible to sleep in a room on the other side of your house - you may feel you shouldn't have to, but the number one priority at the moment is surely getting sleep.

Paparika

beecher wrote: »

You don't know who owns your flat? Who do you pay rent to?

I am sure black out blinds would make a huge difference. As for the noise, you may get used to it in time. When a nightclub opened up across the road from me it was hard at first, but now I'm used to my earplugs and don't even notice it.

From a practical point of view, is it possible to sleep in a room on the other side of your house - you may feel you shouldn't have to, but the number one priority at the moment is surely getting sleep.

No I know who owns my house its the council, i was referring to the car park,

unfortunately no it would not be practical to move to another bedroom, that is occupied by my DS, I wouldn't swap rooms with him he needs his sleep too.

It was suggested i posted on here because a friend said that there were people that knew about rules and regulations on light pollution and noise, and where i stood legally, and some posters have been very helpful on this.

If buying blinds and shoving earplugs in my ears would be the end of it i would.

This is about a big corporate company that has come along pushed a lot of residents out of their homes, demolished then, ripped up lots of trees when there was nothing wrong with them and built a car park that runs the whole length of the road, whilst us residents, 51 homes in one block and a mature people's home too has endured over 3 years of hell for this large glowing slab of concrete. Being lied to about opening hours, It's a residential area and the owners and the company with all their subcontractors have been horrible/abusive, and quite frankly our road has had enough.


I have a blind in my kitchen that i recently purchased from B & Q and too be honest against the strength of the lights its not very good. (even with curtains)

I am partially deaf in one ear and still i can hear loud noise, but don't worry, it's on my door step. nothing to see here, move along

Savvy_Sue

The other thing to remember is that unless you've been round the 'back' of Cabot Circus, you will wonder what Paparika is going on about. The new bit is triangular, with this MASSIVE car park beyond that. There is, honestly, just the width of a narrow formerly residential road between this massive building site (it still is at the back) and residential housing.

The lights from the car park are spectacular, bright blue ramps etc, but I wouldn't want them opposite my house.

And actually, being partially deaf can make you more sensitive to loud noise. there's a technical term for it which escapes me right now, but when I'm walking past pneumatic drills it's my deaf ear I have to cover up or I think my head's going to explode.

I'm sorry I don't know more about the rules. I would get the blackout blinds, though ...

dander

Usually the first thing to do with cases of noise pollution is to keep a diary - make notes of the times of the problem - and how severe the problem is - so when you make an official complaint you can be specific about what's going on and it makes it much easier for the council to compare what you say is happening with what should be happening.

I would have thought the two places you need to get in touch with are planning - to check the place is running to the agreed conditions and environmental health. Definitely getting together as a group of residents is the best idea. Make a clear, consistent complaint and be persistant.

I would definitely focus on dealing with the council and trying to get them on your side - they'll be far more effective at forcing the developers to make changes to minimise disruption to you. After all, they issue the licences for things to be open as late as 3am, they can just as easily take them away.

beecher

Paparika wrote: »

I am partially deaf in one ear and still i can hear loud noise, but don't worry, it's on my door step. nothing to see here, move along

I'm sorry that you seem to think that my posts are unhelpful - I am just trying to offer practical solutions. Are the blinds in your kitchen black out blinds? They should make a huge difference, but normal blinds won't.

Have you contacted Environmental Protection? They'd be able to monitor the sound levels for you.

Paparika

thanks all.

Yes i am keeping a diary have contacted environmental health, and when i have time off work in a weeks time i will be off to the planning office too.

The blinds are just basic ordinary blinds, we put this up before the lights became an issue.

We have a community comity but things are going nowhere, although our local mp has given us her full support.

One thing to note i found out today is that Bristol Alliance are the owners of the car park, who advertise 24/7 parking, claim that they close at 3.30 am and want to extend that to 5am. This seems bizzare.

They refuse to turn the lights off as a health and safety issue, which is fair enough, but will not budge when we suggest halogen lights that turn off when not needed