Gas Safety Certificate?

tbs624

Good to get an update Drea - well done for persisting & getting the info to which you are fully entitled.

Perhaps the LA will show a little more respect for tenants now: I suspect that his "understanding" of the law on the provision of gas safety certificates will have been improved upon after a chat with the HSE representative;)

Drea

tbs624 wrote: »

Good to get an update Drea - well done for persisting & getting the info to which you are fully entitled.

Perhaps the LA will show a little more respect for tenants now: I suspect that his "understanding" of the law on the provision of gas safety certificates will have been improved upon after a chat with the HSE representative;)

We've never been in touch since, think they might like me even less now. Got quite a good relationship with my LL now though, I explained everything to them when they came out with with my TV stand.

Finally sent back my inventory yesterday with a note explaining why it was so late (had been waiting to get all my furniture that was due first) so hopefully that's okay.

gordonstights

Gingernutmeg wrote: »

I always thought the the forms came in triplicate so that a copy could be given to the tenant.

Funny you should mention the triplicate copies, but I had mine done a couple of days ago and the man gave me the bottom copy of the certificate. He read them aloud as he was going through them and said "top for me, middle for the agent and bottom copy for tennant". So yes, there is a copy for the tennant, however, LA probably don't want you to keep one because it's hassle for them if you ever lose it. The gas man said to me "now keep this safe because if you move out it needs to be passed onto the next tennant". So the LA probably want to avoid having to make copies when they don't consider it a necessity for the tennant to have the copy anyway! I don't mind not having one, as long as I know there is a copy for me to see at the LA and that it's up to date etc.

Drea

gordonstights wrote: »

Funny you should mention the triplicate copies, but I had mine done a couple of days ago and the man gave me the bottom copy of the certificate. He read them aloud as he was going through them and said "top for me, middle for the agent and bottom copy for tennant". So yes, there is a copy for the tennant, however, LA probably don't want you to keep one because it's hassle for them if you ever lose it. The gas man said to me "now keep this safe because if you move out it needs to be passed onto the next tennant". So the LA probably want to avoid having to make copies when they don't consider it a necessity for the tennant to have the copy anyway! I don't mind not having one, as long as I know there is a copy for me to see at the LA and that it's up to date etc.

Problem being, I wasn't allowed to see it.

gordonstights

Drea wrote: »

Problem being, I wasn't allowed to see it.

I didn't realise that sorry - speed reading!! I would have been very angry as well if my agent had been like that. Glad you seem to have got it all sorted now though and managed to get the agency on your side! I do think that LA treat tennants as second class citizens a lot of the time though. Sometimes they need to be reminded that people who rent aren't dossers who can't afford to buy their own house. Someone actually asked me last week why I rented and was it because I was a student. The thought didn't enter their mind at all that all sorts of people rent for lots of reasons and mine happens to be that I don't want to buy a house in a falling market..... doesn't mean I can't afford to buy though

Anyway, rambling on too much now...

Good luck with everything

tbs624

gordonstights wrote: »

Funny you should mention the triplicate copies, but I had mine done a couple of days ago and the man gave me the bottom copy of the certificate. He read them aloud as he was going through them and said "top for me, middle for the agent and bottom copy for tennant". So yes, there is a copy for the tennant, however, LA probably don't want you to keep one because it's hassle for them if you ever lose it. The gas man said to me "now keep this safe because if you move out it needs to be passed onto the next tennant". So the LA probably want to avoid having to make copies when they don't consider it a necessity for the tennant to have the copy anyway! I don't mind not having one, as long as I know there is a copy for me to see at the LA and that it's up to date etc.

It doesn't matter what the *LA* thinks, the HSE ( who have responsibility for gas safety matters, along with the local council who can push for prosecution for non-compliance) says quite clearly that a copy of the gas safety certificate must be *issued to the tenant* . That's issued as in "given to" in case anyone has a particularly unintelligent LA like Drea's. The big clue, as I said in a previous post & you mention here, is that one of the copies has the heading Tenant Copy.

Professional LLs leave one of those presentation folder with clear pockets at their properties, and in this there will be copies of instructions/operating manuals for all appliances, heating systems, emergency numbers repairs etc for and that all important gas safety certificate/Form CP12.

sooz

tbs624 wrote: »

Professional LLs leave one of those presentation folder with clear pockets at their properties, and in this there will be copies of instructions/operating manuals for all appliances, heating systems, emergency numbers repairs etc for and that all important gas safety certificate/Form CP12.

I used to, but am now considering using wallpaper paste, & sticking it up next to my EPC

tbs624

sooz wrote: »

I used to, but am now considering using wallpaper paste, & sticking it up next to my EPC

:laugh: Not good enough Sooz- you know that your EPC deserves to be shown off in its full glory and this can only be done in a proper frame, preferably with some sort of poncey inlaid bits on it.