Parking ticket in Asda car park - Is this legal, can they take me to court?

sarahg1969

January Embers - I sympathise; I really do. People parking in disabled bays really gets my back up.

BUT - there is no obligation to display your blue badge in a supermarket car park. So, for all we know, those cars we see parked there MAY belong to blue badge owners.

My local Tesco puts notices on people's cars if they don't have their badges, and I see their point. But they don't know if the car is entitled to park there, because there is no requirement for you to display your badge on a private car park.

Of course, it's sensible to do so, but the fact that there is no visible badge does not mean that the user of the space is not entitled to use it.


And I repeat -Klofty WAS NOT fined. He received an invoice. This is entirely different from a notice on a public car park, which is enforceable.

Unfortunately, I can't see how legislation could be changed to make these private parking "fines" enforceable - they would have to be issued by traffic wardens or the police, and I can't see that happening.

dangeroussports

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Ploppy9,

f she left her jewellery behind than she immidately made a risk assesment and thought that getting a ticket would be worth it if the jewelley was returned/found.

If you park in a disabled bay then you should pay up! Its NOT YOUR space.

But I see so many people with disabled badges getting in and out of cars whilst carrying heavy objects and running from and to their cars.

Somehow I think SOME of these people are fraudsters and should have their badge taken away.

Someone should photograph them.....I think they are playing the system and are sponging peseants. Unless you really are disabled then you should recieve all the support available to you. Including from other motorists...

sarahg1969

dangeroussports wrote: »

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Including from other motorists...

Absolutely. Don't get me started on people who moan about blue badge holders parking in P&C spaces when the disabled spaces are full. :mad:

Poppy9

dangeroussports wrote: »

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Ploppy9,

f she left her jewellery behind than she immidately made a risk assesment and thought that getting a ticket would be worth it if the jewelley was returned/found.

If you park in a disabled bay then you should pay up! Its NOT YOUR space.

But I see so many people with disabled badges getting in and out of cars whilst carrying heavy objects and running from and to their cars.

Somehow I think SOME of these people are fraudsters and should have their badge taken away.

Someone should photograph them.....I think they are playing the system and are sponging peseants. Unless you really are disabled then you should recieve all the support available to you. Including from other motorists...

I don't think she did assess the risk. It might be a female thing but panic sets in when you lose your purse or handbag - even in the house (or is it just me:o ). I would think she would have thought like most reasonable people that in the space of 2 or 3 minutes that no harm would have been done, and there wasn't, and no ticket would be issued.

The blue badge parking issue has been done to death on this forum. Yes some deserve them, yes many take liberties with them (like parking in front of dropped pavements for wheelchair users ) and yes many are fraudulently issued.

I was quite recently left agog by one blue badge holder. I was walking towards Tesco from the City Centre and an elderly lady in front of me was loaded down with bags from shops right at the other end of town. So being a bit of a soft old soul I offered to carry them for her. We get to Tescos and she walks to her car parked in a disabled space, with a blue badge on. She had walked miles, carried heavy bags to save a 60p parking fee in Council run car park. Aside from ignoring the signs that say the car park is for Tesco customers only she blocked a disabled bay from a genuine user who wanted to shop at Tescos.

On the other side of the coin my sister has a blue badge. She's been abused by elderly people and a traffic warden for parking with her blue badge. Because they cannot see her disability they feel this gives them the right. She's also suffered abuse for having a radar key for disabled toilets. I so put one woman right one day - she didn't know where to look.:D

January_Embers

Poppy9 wrote: »

So your disability doesn't prevent you from leaning over the bonnet of the car, lifting the wiper blade and attaching the notice

Give the woman a break. She'd left her jewellery behind. I have left my purse in a shop and you do panic as not everyone is honest these days. She hasn't killed anyone.

:rolleyes: Did I say WHERE I put it on the car? I have a roll of tape in the car I normally stick it on the drivers side window with.
And you are right she hasn't killed anyone but what about the person that couldn't get to park because she was there?

dangeroussports

Emmmm calm down down calm down

The law is the law.

Its like jumping a red light to make way for an ambulance on blues. You still get the points.


hehehehheh

Poppy9

January_Embers wrote: »

:rolleyes: Did I say WHERE I put it on the car? I have a roll of tape in the car I normally stick it on the drivers side window with.

that's criminal damage.

January_Embers wrote:

And you are right she hasn't killed anyone but what about the person that couldn't get to park because she was there?

Did he or she instantaneously combust.:rotfl:

Everytime someone parks in a parking space it's denying someone else the opportunity to park there. Is it ok for a disabled person who can walk around Tescos to deny a wheelchair user, who needs the extra width space to access their vehicle to park in the space? Should you be able to book ahead and move up the pecking order depending on your need?

Elderly 3 points
Wheelchair user 5 points
Deaf 1 point
Blind 6 points
Heart condition 4 points depending on the medication
Learning disabilities 1 point
Mental Health problems 10 points (they might cry if they don't get a space)
Loss of limbs 1 point per limb with double points for legs.
Car boot buyer blue badge holder NIL POINTS (Oh I was looking forward to that one):D

On a serious note I think we do need different types of disabled parking spaces. Those that need wider access to vehicles like wheelchair users should have their own designated bays.

January_Embers

dangeroussports wrote: »

But I see so many people with disabled badges getting in and out of cars whilst carrying heavy objects and running from and to their cars.

Somehow I think SOME of these people are fraudsters and should have their badge taken away.

Someone should photograph them.....I think they are playing the system and are sponging peseants. Unless you really are disabled then you should recieve all the support available to you. Including from other motorists...

I do wonder how people like that get a blue badge as my doctor and consultant had to supply all kinds of medical information about my condition when I applied for mine. Perhaps the application process is different in other areas?

Be aware of hidden disabilites too. Somebody may look ok but they could have a serious condition. Though if they do they probably wont be carry heavy stuff or running!

foreign_correspondent

Look the answer is simple, don't park in the bays marked 'DISABLED' unless you have the necessary badge.

They are there for people with disabilities to use, not for other people's convenience, not for a short stay whilst you pop to the cash point or to get back the jewellery you have left in the tanning shop.

Yes, they are closest to the shop, there is a good reason for this - think about it!

I frequently take my gran (aged 92 and registered disabled) on her weekly trip to the local supermarket to find all the disabled bays full, (almost always none of the cars displaying disability badges).

This does irk me a bit, having to help her struggle out of the car, unable to open the boot enough to get her wheeelchair out and assemble it, or open the car door fully so I can get her wheelchair round, or so she can put her sticks in the right place on the floor to get her balance. It makes it hard work and frustrating. I really worry that when trying to manage this in the cramped space of a non- disabled parking space she is likely to fall and be injured.

(I have also seen a young man who is a wheelchair user (in the same car park) park here, set up his chair and get into it, however, he too was struggling with not being able to open his car door fully - again, no disabled spaces available).

Often half way through this process someone able-bodied will return and move their car from a disabled space, but thats not much use to me by then. Yes they may have just popped in for 5 minutes, but should I have to wait indefinitely for a parking bay to be freed up?? No - Just dont use them.

On one occasion a woman passenger was sitting in one of the cars. I walked around her vehicle and it had no disabled badge. I was going to ask her to move her car, (as I had left my gran sitting in my car while I looked for a suitable space) she wouldnt even make eye contact with me, so I left her to it, ignorant person.

To be honest, this constant struggle to even get parked and get to the shop is almost enough to stop my gran attempting it... which would be a shame as its her only regular outing and a bit of social contact.

I have complained in the supermarket about this and been told that they dont manage the car park - well it seems like no one does - I think its a good thing they are being more vigilant in some areas!

I am aware that the people complaining on here wont like this, but in my opinion if you have parked in a disabled bay you should be ashamed of your behaviour, not coming on here complaining that you have been badly treated. I would be to embarrased to let on, never mind claim unfair treatment!!
Just pay your fine and learn your lesson!

dangeroussports

Years ago, a mate used to let peoples tyres down buy sticking a match in the valve and walk off.

I can just imagine some ignoramus wondering why his car isnt driving all that well.

Probably caused damage to the wheel too.

But thats him.....he was a funny fella!

He had a thing about people parking in disabled bays....his dad used to have a wheel chair and once couldnt get into his car because a ignoramus had parked his car too close to his door. His dad waited in the rain.....and it wasnt five minutes.

Dont let my old mate catch you.....