[TEXT DELETED BY FORUM TEAM] Marketing Company - YOU WILL NOT BE A MANAGER ONE DAY!!!

idunnoreally

in all fairness, I have seen a manager walk away with four grand in a week, but as you say, with 50 people in the building all thinking they will be a manager

idunnoreally

cobra and PerDM were the same people that came over from america; Cobra pay in shares when you get to management and you pay for your own office, PerDM open you up by your manager, but its all the same scammery. They said I should go flip burgers at mcdonalds, and thats what i've done, and they'll pay me £200 pound in my first week. thats a hell of alot more than these marketing shmucks pay, trust me! I was there for nearly a year and couldn't even feed myself; I went to work with no breakfast, could only afford the cheapest lunch and maybe tea and biscuits for dinner. only the strong will get to management, all the rest will starve, declare themsleves bankrupt and die.

idunnoreally

yep, I've been to the Norwich office, just off the high street, same thing

alwe150789

It's funny that u mention them telling u to flip burgers... they wern't specific with me but one meeting told the whole crew tht anybodi who cnt hack it cn go n work for mcdonalds for pittance...ironically u made mre in your first week then i did in my first month of sales/conning good pple out of money...

cascas13

GRRRATPARKER wrote: »

lol, I've got another interview with one of these scam companies. I accidentally applied to it yesterday and got a call today. I'm going to take the opportunity to confront the manager over his ethics.

I applied to the job from this link: jobsearch.co.uk/show_job.cgi?j=5127252&src=SponsoredSearchLink&srcattr=jobsearch&wt.ac_id=internalsponsoredsearch_jobsearch_5127252&c=7&o=219&r=38&sr=210

It's BlackRock advertising and has the typical lack of details on there website www .br-advertising.co.uk/

Is this BlackRock advertising in Bournemouth? I have an interview there this week. can you tell me about your experience please?

Martin001

I have a particular hatred of subsidiaries of the PerDM Group, simply because I was very nearly suckered-in. Thankfully, I researched JMS Marketing Ltd in Newcastle-upon-Tyne before I had my interview, and (as I've said previously in this thread, I believe) got in touch with a few people who work for Newspapers and did a short expos! on them.

Recently I was walking through Sunderland City Centre and noticed a Victoria Jackson make-up stall set up just outside of the WHSmiths. I thought "Hey, would you look at that, JMS Marketing/Marketing Concepts/MCS are up to their tricks!" and decided to have a wander over.

The decidedly-orange woman who was, I assume, in charge, was bigging-up sales techniques to the lost-looking girl standing with her. I thought I'd be a sport and offer a helping hand of my own, and began the following conversation;

Me: "Good afternoon, can I just ask a few questions of you both?"
Trainer: "Yes sir, how can we help?"
Me: Well, I'd like to know first of all if you are in any way affiliated with JMS Marketing Limited, Marketing Concepts Limited, MCUK Limited..."
Trainer: "No sir, we aren't."
Me: "I see. How about the PerDM Group?"
Trainer: "Yes sir, we're part of the PerDM Group... Might I ask why?"
Me: "I'll explain in a moment, just humour me. Now, Miss, could you answer some questions for me?"
Newbie: "Erm, yeah, I sup-"
Trainer: "I'll answer any questions you might have."
Me: "No, I'm asking her. Have you signed any forms yet?"
Trainer: "No, we haven't."
Me: "I'm not asking you. (to the other) Are you aware that the Consignment Forms that your Trainer here will make you sign in a few days are actually used to register you as self-employed, thus negating the Working Time Regulations as well as your right to a Minimum Wage?"
Trainer: "That's not true!"
Me: "Actually it is. Are you also aware that the only way to earn '100% commission' is to be self-employed, as any other Sales job of ANY kind will pay your basic Minimum Wage and then a small percentage of your commission on top of that, if you meet reasonable targets?"
Trainer: "That's not true either!"
Me: "Yes, it is. Would you be interested in knowing that 13 weeks after you sign this Consignment Form you are bound by law to be hired by the company you are -already- working for and paid at least National Minimum Wage in addition to your commission, and that if the company ignores this then they are breaking the law?"
Girl: "Well, no..."
Trainer: "He doesn't know what he's talking about!"
Me: "I don't, do I? What company do you work for then?"
(At this point, the alarm bells DEFINITELY start showing on the poor girl's face as her Trainer spouts -her own name- followed by 'Promotions Limited'...)
Me: "And tell me, is this your second "Interview"? The one where you aren't shown 'the Glitz and Glam side of the business, but you get to meet Clients and see how the basic sales techniques are applied'?"
Girl: "... How do you know what they said?"
Trainer: "Shut up."
Me: "I think I won't, if you don't mind. I suggest you get out of the company before you start losing money. I almost fell for it too, and I'm glad I caught on before I did. I went to the interviews for the craic, and I'm glad to see their script hasn't changed no matter which scam company you get 'hired' by."

At this point, the Trainer looked furious and started screeching at me in the middle of the high-street, sarcastically mouthing off about how much of a help I had been and "thanks for the information" while the girl she was training grabbed her handbag and walked away as fast as possible.

That Victoria Jackson stall hasn't been back, to my knowledge, and definitely not manned by the same Trainer if it has

kevin1985_2

Is this the same as the rest here. its from Magnum Direct Ltd. found their ad on the reed website. It was a bit vague, not really saying what the job was just with the heading "fundraising sales". Other ads by the same company are evrywhere with the heading "+++ IMMEDAITE START +++".
The wage it just said paid weekly and was £300-£700 (yeah right) but nothing about commision only or NMW being paid etc.
Anyway i applied and just had my telephone interview which (unsuprisingly) i passed and he has (out of loads of applicants) decided to fast track me so that i bypass a second interview.
Here is the email i got about an hour after:


Dear Kevin,

I am pleased to confirm that we will be fast tracking you through our recruitment process. This is a rare opportunity as we only have space for one or two fast track applications.

Company: Magnum Direct
Position: Field Sales Advisor
Assessor/Trainer: Joanna

Date: Monday 11th July 2011
Time: 10.30am

Address: Dephna House, 112-114 North Acton Road, Park Royal, London, NW10 6QH

Dress Code: Smart Business

Please bring the following with you:
A completed job application form
1 x passport photo
2 x proofs of current address
A copy of passport
2 x business references

*****Keep all travel receipts as we will reimburse you*****

Should any issues arise with this time or date please contact me ASAP so that I can advise our trainer and if applicable re-schedule.

Please have a look at our website in preparation for training.

May I take this opportunity to wish you every success with this stage of the process.

Regards,


Amrik Biring
Recruitment Department


Magnum Direct Limited



It sounds very similar to what others here have posted and been saying and i really cant be bothered to go if its the same rubbish.

Anyone heard or had anything to do with them?

bakers2000

Another Name -same old
RedFive Marketing trades under Parker worldwide.

Door Knocking 6 days a week.
10am - 10pm
Having to travel to other cities as the residents of Southampton are so sick of these knocking every other week its now been turns a no cold calling area.
No expenses paid
Self employed
Thousands of interviews and days out have happend - yet only 2 managers produced are still trading mmmm


SALES IMMEDIATE START - ENERGETIC SALES & MARKETING - IMMEDIATE START

Ref: CS/2711 (Red 5)
Location: Southampton
Salary: £ 17000 to £ 22000 + OTE (full-time (per year))
ENERGETIC SALES & MARKETING - IMMEDIATE START

Red 5 - We are looking to increase our Southampton based Sales & Marketing sector due to the successful cost-effective nature of our marketing campaigns means our services are in higher demand for 2011 - 2012.

Are you looking for increased earnings and rewards?

Are you looking to work alongside energetic and positive people?

Are you looking for a company where you can make a difference?

Are You seeking Personal Development?

You will be working with customers and clients face-to-face, so solid communication skills and a willingness to learn is essential. Earnings are accumulated on a daily basis, and rewarded only on completed sales for our Client.

WHAT IT TAKES...

Ability to grow and develop with the company.

Have a positive and energetic outlook.

The ability to persist.

Be a solution finder.

Motivated by your success.

We're looking for people who are excited to develop business to business, business to consumer, res or event based field sales, business development and business management.

SEND US YOUR CV TODAY FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION!

Red 5's workplace - leading from example, diversity, including the sales & marketing, development and management culture. Red 5 believe that a diverse team is the key to strong, fast and consistent business progression within the UK.

*Following initial meeting, some candidates will be invited back to spend a day shadowing one of our leading Account Managers in the field, to get a better feel for the day-to-day responsibilities and expectations of the role. Please note that you will not be working this day, but rather observing and therefore not entitled to compensation. A mutual final decision about the opening will be made upon your return to the office*

ChrisChris20

When to an interview with Platinum Force in Liverpool regarding a job posting on the search website Monster.. previously I had seen this forum only last night and got prepared for the worst, and everything the first person said about his experience is exactly what I experienced. Apparently the manager was 'keen' to meet me after reading my CV.. turns out this 'keen' attitude applied to 50 other people on the same day.

When I got there about 15 people were sat in a hospital like waiting area filling in application forms with the information already presented on your CV/Job Application, so yeah sure the manager had 'read' my CV.. then I was called into the interview room with 5 other people. It is really intimidating when you are sat with the people you are competing for a job against - it was almost a 'The Apprentice' styled atmosphere.

If I was you I'd avoid this company and its affiliates because if you think you could be working with some of the 'biggest' clients in the world on promotional material then think again, you'll be on the streets promoting the services like the companies 600+ employees.

dmliverpool

Google them if you find a crappy website with no more than 5 or 6 pages on it its a scam and includes selling tut on the streets and getting on buses with bags of it.

They may as well get you to sell magic carpets.

You'd be lucky to get paid. You'll know they are rubbish on the phone. i applie for a few jobs online and had one of these companies on the phone. They said I could be lord of the rings after there fast track scheme. So I ask how many people they employed and a link to there website be sent over to me as well as the job pack (I.e JD, PS etc) and they put the phone down. Lol :money: BUSTED!!

Just glad they don't have sensitive information about me.