Which Vista versions True or False?

Marty_J

NickMidgley wrote: »

Yeah... it's not like those technological philanthropists at Apple regularly release updates to OSX, name them after jungle cats and charge $100 a time for them.

If you can find a fully licenced copy of Vista Ultimate for $100, go ahead and buy it.

[Deleted User]

Marty_J wrote: »

But you're missing the point. If the only version had al the features Vista Ultimate had, there would be no need to pay more.

Except OEM's who have to raise the price of computers to compensate for features that the majority of their home users, spreading into corporate users would not use.

It's pretty simple to understand that not everyone needs every feature in Windows, therefore a scaled down version suits different uses and budgets.

Why don't Ford just make one specification for each model?

Consumer choice..

Sput2001

Marty_J wrote: »

If you can find a fully licenced copy of Vista Ultimate for $100, go ahead and buy it.

You can pick it up as an upgrade for about £60 if you need it.

But I don't, so I'm not going to.

That's the whole point...

Marty_J

anewhope wrote: »

Except OEM's who have to raise the price of computers to compensate for features that the majority of their home users, spreading into corporate users would not use.

It's pretty simple to understand that not everyone needs every feature in Windows, therefore a scaled down version suits different uses and budgets.

Why don't Ford just make one specification for each model?

Consumer choice..

Wouldn't they still have that choice if consumers could choose which version to install? When I install OS X, I can choose which features of the OS I install.

I'm trying to work out whether it's amusing or sad that you all like being thought of by Microsoft as walking wallets.

When Apple use some silly proprietary cable for their iPods instead of a regular USB cable, or make you pay £20 for Quicktime Pro (which is already on your computer if you have Quicktime btw), I'm not silly enough to pretend it's a Good Thing™.

[Deleted User]

I think your just being a stick in the mud for the sake of it.

Marty_J

anewhope wrote: »

I think your just being a stick in the mud for the sake of it.

I'm afraid you've got me there!

But I do think it's pretty bad on Microsoft's part.

[Deleted User]

Ok here we are:

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic 32 Bit (OEM) - £53.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit (OEM) - £63.45
Microsoft Windows Vista Business 32 Bit (OEM) - £91.36
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 32 Bit (OEM) - £107.92

That's the range of OEM software you can buy.

Why, as a home user, would you want the extras in Ultimate that will be no use to you and spend a further £50 to do it?

I don't see how you can't accept choice as anything other than a good way to do business.

It's no different to car manufacturers offering options on car models, nor supermarkets for offering a range of products to suit need and budget.

What works for Apple doesn't work for Microsoft.

Conor_3

Marty_J wrote: »

You get a version that does not have all the features of the full product.
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So if I buy a Ford Mondeo LX, am I only getting a demo version because it doesn't have all the features of the Ghia X?

BWHAHAHAAAA.

Never heard anything so stupid.

Marty_J

anewhope wrote: »

Ok here we are:

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic 32 Bit (OEM) - £53.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit (OEM) - £63.45
Microsoft Windows Vista Business 32 Bit (OEM) - £91.36
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 32 Bit (OEM) - £107.92

That's the range of OEM software you can buy.

Why, as a home user, would you want the extras in Ultimate that will be no use to you and spend a further £50 to do it?

The OEM version of Vista Home Premium costs about the same as the full retail version of Mac OS X 10.5. I'm not saying everyone should pay extra to get the extra features. I'm saying no one should pay extra to get them.

I don't see how you can't accept choice as anything other than a good way to do business.

It is a good way to do business, because it increases the amount of money you can get from your customers. Unless you have shares in Microsoft however, I fail to see why this is any benefit to you.

It's no different to car manufacturers offering options on car models, nor supermarkets for offering a range of products to suit need and budget.

Yes, it is different. Car options cost money to add to a car. The more options you add, the more it costs to add them, which you are then charged for. Producing only one version of Vista does not cost more than producing one full version and several crippled ones. In fact, it costs less. Vista Ultimate isn't Home Premium with things added, Home Premium is Ultimate with things removed.

It's more like a car manufacturer making a car and your dealing removing some of its features and charging you more to get them back.

What works for Apple doesn't work for Microsoft.

Clearly.

[Deleted User]

Marty_J wrote: »

The OEM version of Vista Home Premium costs about the same as the full retail version of Mac OS X 10.5. I'm not saying everyone should pay extra to get the extra features. I'm saying no one should pay extra to get them.

Apple can afford to sell OS-X at a lower price because of the mark up they make on hardware.