Being made to go out for food after work

surreysaver

daphne_descends wrote: »

In this economic climate I'd say it is foolish to not go for what really are petty reasons - you don't mention family or other commitments, just that you are dieting - big whoop.

Maybe you should quit and let someone more committed have your job

What economic climate? It is just media sponsored scare mongering.

tomstickland

For the record, I do think that if the OP doesn't want to go or use their own time then they can say so to their employers.

tomstickland

surreysaver wrote: »

What economic climate? It is just media sponsored scare mongering.

Yes, the reports of job losses at building suppliers and trades etc are just made up.
Here's one the media made up today. You can tell those affected that they're just part of a media sponsored hysteria.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7592300.stm

Do you work for a private enterprise?

ceridwen

razorbladekisses

Check your P.M.s.

regards

ceridwen

chuckley

daphne_descends wrote: »

In this economic climate I'd say it is foolish to not go for what really are petty reasons - you don't mention family or other commitments, just that you are dieting - big whoop.

Maybe you should quit and let someone more committed have your job

!!!! licking your way up the career ladder is pathetic. and shows u r an idiot that will do anything to 'move up'.... and lets be honest manangers arent dumb, they know there r folk out there they can get to do the 'rubbish jobs' or 'stay late'. they dont always respect u for it, more see it as u bein their little skivvy. there will be many that will say trash about u behind your back about it. there is NO evidence to suggest that doing such things moves you up quicker or even gains u respect. if anything you will be looked on as a a little pet!

staying late, attending 'out of work' non compulsory rubbish just shows ur a pushover that will do 'whatever' just to move on up, even if its unpaid.... sorry but unless its an internship u shouldnt be doin that and espesh on a regular basis. ud neva catch me bein taken for a mug.

the biggest example i can thing of is retail, where after closing you gotta clean up the shop floor for up to 2 hours and NONE of that is paid. and thats on a daily basis. if its in your contract, fine (i wouldnt sign one like that btw). if not, im leavin when my times up. if that means i dont reach supervisor or manager, then so be it. i aint desperate and gonna reduce myself just to 'move up'.

what sad times we live in *smh*

tomstickland

Well, you'll see that quite a few successful people on here have commented that they put that extra bit of effort into their jobs. It all depends on the situation though - if it's a badly managed place then I'd not advise making any more effort than neccessary and looking for another job.

Don't confuse that with "brown nosing". That refers to sycophantic behaviour.

Lakeuk

May look bad since you've made it known you don't want to go - I'd go to first one and if it turns out to be a waste of time then when the second one comes up give the excuse of that family commitment has come up, if asked what it is then say it's a private matter you don't want to go into.

Mellika

daphne_descends wrote: »

Maybe you should quit and let someone more committed have your job

That's terribly unfair.

She's obviously committed to her job, in the normal working hours. Going out for pizza afterwards is NOT normal working hours. It constitutes training and should be done during the day while you're getting paid.

But, as everyone else has said, it's probably not worth making a fuss about, you probably won't win and just get on their bad side...

Poodlecrazy

I've thought long and hard about this and am struggling with what I think is the correct answer / what I would do. Personally I would go, but then I like pizza and like social events of all types.

My job is technically a 9 - 5 but most weeks I have breakfast meetings at 7am (often many miles from home). I regularly work evenings and weekends, sometimes at home sometimes in the office. I take work calls and emails weekends / evenings. BUT I also wander in when I like (within reason) can work from home when it suits me and generally get treated like a valued professional. (I'm a corporate lawyer).

As a student I worked in a very regimented retail chain ('where in the world?...) and arrived 1 min before shift, left 1 min after and did nothing extra unless paid. Mind you we had to get permission to go to the loo so the 'give and take' was reciprocal!!

I think what I'm trying to say is that it depends on the organisation, the personalities and the role you do. If my employer suddenly started clock watching me, I'd be out of the door at 5pm and you wouldn't catch me answering emails at 3am, yes it happens! :rolleyes: .

It's about give and take. By all means refuse to do something extra work wise 'for free' but expect the same level of inflexibility back when you want something.

hth :beer:

A_little_stressed!!

I'm hungry after all this!