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  • Hi OP

    Without knowing the specifics of why your kids have been pulled up, its hard to comment.

    However, in my experience primary schools are more relaxed than secondary schools but then at the end of the day some modicum of common sense needs to apply here.

    As others have said, the basics should be defined. Eg. Black trousers, white shirt/blouse etc. Just go to Tesco's/Asda and get that. Any items like jumpers should be available from the school or a local supplier.

    Primary school kids do not need to go to school in makeup, jewellery (except perhaps a stud earring) and just sensible haircut (no colours etc).

    If you still have issues with the way they are interpreted the rules then rather than ask if school uniforms are legal, ask why they are not consistenly applying the same rules to all.
  • delain
    delain Posts: 7,700 Forumite
    mrcow wrote: »
    It's far more likely that they were showing you and the other students in your class in a very graphic way that school rules apply to everyone and if you flout them (either deliberately or through carelessness), there are consequences.

    As an effective punishment, it worked didn't it? The fact that you are still talking about it now proves that. I bet you moaned non stop to the other pupils in your class too - again, reinforcing to others that rule braking and non compliance of uniform wearing (even if it's something as simple as a tie) has consequences.

    Pain in the **** punishments are often quite effective for many reasons ;)

    I know it was my own fault, I had to be out of the door waiting for the bus at 8am and I used to pitch out of bed at 7.55 or thereabouts, brush my teeth and leave and as a consequence I was almost always missing something :rotfl:

    I agree it was effective :o
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  • lucylucky
    lucylucky Posts: 4,908 Forumite
    KimYeovil wrote: »
    No, it is not tongue in cheek. All decent parents want their children to wear the uniform. Only bad parents or extremist weirdos dispute this. You sound like a politician. Just because something 'conforms with the guidelines' does not mean it is the correct thing to do. And if you are being targetted (where you think others are not) perhaps that is because they believe you are a decent person who should be an exemplar and are worth the effort.

    Well it should be tongue in cheek, as should your subsequent even more ridiculous post. The OP appears to be seeking clarity on the interpretation of guidelines and how they are applied. The OP wishes them to be applied fairly and equitably. Seems perfectly reasonable.
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    Dear <school>

    <offspring> has reported being challenged on several occasions by <school staff> over uniform. In order to monitor this situation, I would ask that <offspring> is not challenged about this directly, you are requested to communicate such issues directly to me by <means of communication>, as I regard myself as responsible for <offspring>'s compliance with the uniform requirements.

    Pleas send a copy of the current uniform requirements together with a note of any further requirements which are not recorded.

    Yours sincerely

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  • izzybusy23
    izzybusy23 Posts: 994 Forumite
    edited 28 April 2010 at 12:31PM
    Can anyone tell me for certain whether school uniform IN PRIMARY school is legally enforcable please? Do you happen to know the legislation which makes it enforcable/non-enforcable?

    I am 80% certain it is not legally enforcable but I don't know the law to quote. I think it is only a "dress code" which the school ask parents to follow (& I'm happy to support reasonable requests).

    Thanks in advance

    Its a strange one for sure. My daughter's primary has a school uniform but it is was stated in the starting school booklet that it was 'optional'. However, when she was going on the half days settling in sessions, I asked whether they needed to wear their uniforms on those days and I was told yes.. so to me that meant their uniform wasn't optional after all. However, I wasn't fussed as I wanted my DD to wear a uniform and she and all of her school friends do and I must say it does look nice; especially now with all their red and white checked summer dresses.

    Why do you ask? Edit: just read rest of the thread! What is your child being pulled up on?
  • euronorris
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    KimYeovil wrote: »
    No, it is not tongue in cheek. All decent parents want their children to wear the uniform. Only bad parents or extremist weirdos dispute this.

    That is ridiculous!

    You are effectively saying that every other country, that doesn't impose school uniforms is full of bad parents and extremist weirdos!

    Whilst there are positives to having school uniforms, there are also negatives. And, there are also positives to not having a school uniform.

    In future, please think before you type such nonsense.

    Oh, and it might help if you read the subsequent posts from the OP which explains their query further. I can only assume, from your post, that you didn't bother.
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  • pigpen
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    edited 28 April 2010 at 12:53PM
    What is it exactly that the children are being 'pulled up' on???

    It is pretty hard to help if we don't know what it is they are being frowned upon for.

    Primary uniform is not compulsory by law unless a private school.. even voluntary aided or church school in receipt of government funding, whatever the percentage of cash they get.. there was some blarb about it in the governors pack when I became school governor so there must be something somewhere online..

    Ours have white polo shirts.. yeah right.. mine get dark yellow or bottle green! Bottle green jumpers/cardies.. but noone care what they are made of.. trousers/skirts/pinafore and in summer lots wear those gingham dresses.. and the usual.. no heeled shoes, no jewellery etc..

    Mine have grey jumpers, green jumpers, blue jumpers, blue, yellow or green check dresses.. different sizes have different colours so I and they can tell them apart.. black or grey trousers/skirts/pinafores... basically if it is considered 'uniform' it is what they wear.. I do not buy the school logo'd stuff as it is cheap and shoddy and looks dreadful very quickly.

    I have aso taken the uniform woman at the high schools to task about the cost and the stupidity of it all and seen changes which is good and the children do benefit.

    http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/management/atoz/u/uniform/ .. and I am intrigued as to why those who are rastafarian find it unacceptable to wear second hand/borrowed clothing
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  • xmaslolly76
    xmaslolly76 Posts: 3,974 Forumite
    pigpen wrote: »
    http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/management/atoz/u/uniform/ .. and I am intrigued as to why those who are rastafarian find it unacceptable to wear second hand/borrowed clothing

    That would be very interesting to know as after watching an episode of wife swap once they had a rastafarian family on there and the whole rastafarian community used to share and distribute food and clothing. So if one family was up on their luck they would share their gains with the other families and vise versa.
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  • bonty44
    bonty44 Posts: 439 Forumite
    Good thread OP - my sons' primary is introducing a compulsory blazer just for Years 5 / 6 - no mention of this when I applied for a place and I would like to know where I stand legally before I refuse to buy two extra items of uniform.
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    pigpen wrote: »
    I do not buy the school logo'd stuff as it is cheap and shoddy and looks dreadful very quickly.

    My parents never had this problem. The problem only started in secondary school, because the jumpers were those awful wool v-neck jumpers.
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