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cheap_charlie

Camp_Freddy wrote: »

It is fact. MSE forum members were swapping Dooyoo user names and making a point of running off to specifically read the reviews in order to give them the read money. That's cartel-like behaviour. I'm not saying (and never did) that everyone that posted on that thread was doing it, or even that it was a majority, but people WERE doing it whether you admit it or not, and in certain quarters it has tarnished the reputation of the forum as a whole. While the carte-like behaviour wasn't actively encouraged, it didn't seem to be frowned upon either, although admittedly that part is my opinion and I do admit that jo the moderator did go through the entire thread and remove Dooyoo usernames because of that.

No, it is only FACT in your OPINION.

Plus you are damned if you do (build up a Circle of Friends and read other people's reviews) and damned if you don't (merely churn out review after review and not read anyone else's) so far as you are concerned.

I recall once asking you what the point of Circle of Friends was if it were not seen as a "clicking cartel".

I am still awaiting an answer from you or anyone else more well versed on dooyoo than I.

barongreenback

cheap_charlie wrote: »

No, it is only FACT in your OPINION.

Plus you are damned if you do (build up a Circle of Friends and read other people's reviews) and damned if you don't (merely churn out review after review and not read anyone else's) so far as you are concerned.

I recall once asking you what the point of Circle of Friends was if it were not seen as a "clicking cartel".

I am still awaiting an answer from you or anyone else more well versed on dooyoo than I.

Ok. I do not use the CofF as any form of clicking cartel. I add people for loads of reasons. Because I like them (I have actual friends in my circle yea know ;o) ), because I like how they write and more often or not because I trust their opinion or appreciate their honesty. I don't think I have ever used the CofF to get some sort of database of members whose reviews I will read as I do not believe in that preferring to read the topics and reviews I like from the new in list.

If everyone read like this there would be no issue with clicking at all! Why read someones review because you know them? I read a review because the topic interests me. I know some great writers whose reviews I hardly ever read because they write about bloody Lush all the time!

The CofF can be used however you want, however, there is an email alerts system for members reviews so I don't see the need for using the CofF in a clicking cartel type way.

cheap_charlie

Thank you for the clarification.

I never viewed Circle of Friends as a "clicking cartel" and have added people for the reasons you state above. The vast majority of people on my CoF are people who added me first - the rest are people who post reviews I enjoy reading.

Camp_Freddy

cheap_charlie wrote: »

No, it is only FACT in your OPINION.

No. It is fact. End of. People swapped Dooyoo usernames, went off to Dooyoo and came back to MSE and posted on the original thread, even going so far as to say that they'd made a point of going through specific member's reviews and making sure they got the read money. That's a display of cartel-like behaviour. There was no interpretation required.

While this might have been done innocently enough because MSE members are/were unaware of Dooyoo's T&Cs or whatnot, it still stinks and anyone with an ounce of common sense must have known it would be frowned upon over on Dooyoo.

cheap_charlie

Camp_Freddy wrote: »

No. It is fact. End of. People swapped Dooyoo usernames, went off to Dooyoo and came back to MSE and posted on the original thread, even going so far as to say that they'd made a point of going through specific member's reviews and making sure they got the read money. That's a display of cartel-like behaviour. There was no interpretation required.

While this might have been done innocently enough because MSE members are/were unaware of Dooyoo's T&Cs or whatnot, it still stinks and anyone with an ounce of common sense must have known it would be frowned upon over on Dooyoo.

That first sentence tells me you have no idea how to exchange views or admit there is a difference between fact and opinion.

As for stating "anyone with an ounce of common sense must have known it would be frowned upon over at Dooyoo" well I can reiterate that I have lots of common sense but as a newbie I had a lot to learn, as everyone does when they join a new community. As has already been stated by a Guide no less, Circle of Friends is not viewed as a "clicking cartel".

There are some regular dooyoo members who offer helpful advice without being accusatory or rude. You however do not fall into this category - you personally were responsible for a regular MSE member leaving the forum due to your tone and accusations and that isn't opinion, accusation or speculation - that IS fact.

Camp_Freddy

cheap_charlie wrote: »

That first sentence tells me you have no idea how to exchange views or admit there is a difference between fact and opinion.

If I make a statement about something that happened in the past, that's a fact. There was cartel-like behaviour from some members on a thread on this site earlier in the year. That is a fact.

cheap_charlie wrote: »

As for stating "anyone with an ounce of common sense must have known it would be frowned upon over at Dooyoo" well I can reiterate that I have lots of common sense but as a newbie I had a lot to learn, as everyone does when they join a new community. As has already been stated by a Guide no less, Circle of Friends is not viewed as a "clicking cartel".

I never, ever said that the CoF was a cartel. Reading around Dooyoo, finding someone whose opinions are similar to your own and whose writing style you appreciate and adding them to your CoF (should you actually use it) is not cartel behaviour. Huddling in an off-site forum, swapping usernames, then making a point of going off to Dooyoo to read all of that members reviews based purely on the fact that you "know" each other on MSE is cartel-like action.

Being general: a site pays money for reads. You come up with a cunning plan to extract as much money as possible for the least amount of effort, possibly involving other people "ganging up" on the system. It doesn't matter how new you are to ANY site, it's common sense to realise that there might be something iffy about that.

If the MSE members that are so indignant about their being accused of cartel behaviour spoke up about it/reported it in the first place, then it never would have been an issue, would it?

cheap_charlie wrote: »

There are some regular dooyoo members who offer helpful advice without being accusatory or rude. You however do not fall into this category - you personally were responsible for a regular MSE member leaving the forum due to your tone and accusations and that isn't opinion, accusation or speculation - that IS fact.

So she didn't like that I pointed out the hypocrisy in her coming on to MSE to whine about a guide who had no right of reply nor did she like the accusation that she had posted over 100 reviews in a week and was barely giving back to the community. Both accusations based in fact and behaviour that, just like the cartel-like stuff, doesn't paint MSE forummers in a good light. She might have been a "regular" member, but that didn't make her "good", in the same way that those members who were doing the cartel stuff aren't "good" members and just like the other MSE members in the past that have raped any bonus system dry – Sainsbury's, Tesco etc.

mizzy2

i come on this site to read about dooyoo as I am interested in it and write on it. This thread is once again getting full up with an argument. pm each other if you really want as this is not helping new users learn in a friendly way about the site. either that or create your own thread camp freddy.

mattygroves_3

SpoonyOh wrote: »

I do have one quandary though - some members write their reviews in txtspk (I cannot stand it!), but their reviews are reasonable enough. Is it fair to say the review isn't helpful when you spend ten minutes deciphering it, although it is useful once translated? I don't want to come across as harsh, but real English makes it a lot easier.

Absolutely. You should rate as you see fit - always. How useful is the review to you? If it's not useful to you, rate it such.

I'm a grammar freak, so I would certainly rate that review down. If I have to spend effort simply to decipher it, it would get rated down. I might or might not explain my rating in the comments - you do not have to explain it.

That's the whole point of peer review!

Cheers

loulybooly

I only have a few more reviews to write on dooyoo before i reach my £50!

I can not wait to see what happens!!

mattygroves_3

loulybooly wrote: »

I only have a few more reviews to write on dooyoo before i reach my £50!

I can not wait to see what happens!!

What are you expecting will happen?