EMA advise please

999

Silky

Are you aware that if your daughter is doing an E2E course that started after June then there is no limit for parental earnings to receive EMA? That may be of help to you or others

Oldernotwiser

999 wrote: »

Silky

Are you aware that if your daughter is doing an E2E course that started after June then there is no limit for parental earnings to receive EMA? That may be of help to you or others

There are far too many people considering doing an E2E course just to get EMA. For someone who's academically able or who has chosen and been accepted for a vocational course E2E is a complete waste of time. You are giving very bad advice in suggesting that someone should do E2E just for the money!

999

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

There are far too many people considering doing an E2E course just to get EMA. For someone who's academically able or who has chosen and been accepted for a vocational course E2E is a complete waste of time. You are giving very bad advice in suggesting that someone should do E2E just for the money!

Oldernotwiser - With great respect I didn't advise Silky or his daughter to do anything. All I did was point out the entitlement rules IF Silky's daughter was on an E2E course. From looking at the post that point did not seem to have arisen nor could I see a clear statement of what sort of course Silky's daughter is on. If she is on an E2E course then Silky's daughter may have missed out on claiming EMA and that would be certainly have been very bad advice.

On reading the post I also saw that you had advised that a reassessment of entitlement after a fall in income of 15% was possible. I believe that is applicable to the Scottish EMA scheme only but Northern Ireland and Wales allow reassessment if the income change is 'non-temporary'. In England they have much stricter rules as quoted below

Reassessment of Income mid year
16. Where a young person has not been eligible to receive any EMA payment or the
maximum level of weekly EMA payment on the grounds of household income but he
satisfies the conditions set out in paragraph 4, he may apply to be reassessed at any
point if one or more of the following conditions are fulfilled:

• 

• a person whose income was taken into account in determining financial eligibility has died; or
  
  
  
• 
  a relevant person*2 becomes disabled, as defined in the Disability Discrimination Act 1995.
  
  
  
• 
  since the assessment of income was made, the young person has becomeestranged from his parents, guardians or someone else whose income was taken into account in determining financial eligibility; or
  
  
  
• 
  the young person has been taken into the care of the Local Authority; or
  
  
  
•  the young person has become a parent with care of his child

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any adult named on the application form as forming the household, the learner, or any sibling of the learner living in the same household as the learner".

Spudnik_2

I'm not sure that they were suggesting that his daughter did an E2E course just for the EMA. The OP didn't make clear what the course his daughter was going to study was, so I interpreted 999's post as informing him that, if his daughter did happen to be doing an E2E course, there might still be an opportunity to claim EMA.

EDIT: Scratch that. 999 has apparently posted with a more eloquent version of the above.

SuziQ

doelani-your daughter sounds like a very determined and hard working young woman,she deserves to do well in life.

doelani

SuziQ wrote: »

doelani-your daughter sounds like a very determined and hard working young woman,she deserves to do well in life.[/quote

thanks SuziQ

Oldernotwiser

Spudnik wrote: »

I'm not sure that they were suggesting that his daughter did an E2E course just for the EMA. The OP didn't make clear what the course his daughter was going to study was, so I interpreted 999's post as informing him that, if his daughter did happen to be doing an E2E course, there might still be an opportunity to claim EMA.

EDIT: Scratch that. 999 has apparently posted with a more eloquent version of the above.

The OP had said earlier that his daughter was going to college for a year,so not E2E.

Oldernotwiser

999 wrote: »

Oldernotwiser - With great respect I didn't advise Silky or his daughter to do anything. All I did was point out the entitlement rules IF Silky's daughter was on an E2E course. From looking at the post that point did not seem to have arisen nor could I see a clear statement of what sort of course Silky's daughter is on. If she is on an E2E course then Silky's daughter may have missed out on claiming EMA and that would be certainly have been very bad advice.

On reading the post I also saw that you had advised that a reassessment of entitlement after a fall in income of 15% was possible. I believe that is applicable to the Scottish EMA scheme only but Northern Ireland and Wales allow reassessment if the income change is 'non-temporary'. In England they have much stricter rules as quoted below

Reassessment of Income mid year
16. Where a young person has not been eligible to receive any EMA payment or the
maximum level of weekly EMA payment on the grounds of household income but he
satisfies the conditions set out in paragraph 4, he may apply to be reassessed at any
point if one or more of the following conditions are fulfilled:

• 

• a person whose income was taken into account in determining financial eligibility has died; or
  
  
  
• 
  
  
  a relevant person*2 becomes disabled, as defined in the Disability Discrimination Act 1995.
  
  
  
• 
  
  
  since the assessment of income was made, the young person has becomeestranged from his parents, guardians or someone else whose income was taken into account in determining financial eligibility; or
  
  
  
• 
  
  
  the young person has been taken into the care of the Local Authority; or
  
  
  
•  the young person has become a parent with care of his child

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any adult named on the application form as forming the household, the learner, or any sibling of the learner living in the same household as the learner".

Thank you for the correction. I hadn't realised that the criteria were not the same throughout the UK.