Mobility Car Rules - is this genuine?

cheap_charlie

CarerQuie wrote: »

I agree with you.My ds (10) has autism and we have a motability car.I'd far rather he didn't have autism and we had our own car.However,at least we have a reliable car.We only use the blue badge for him;that is where fraud can occur if you use the blue badge for anyone else.

They don't just give higher rate mobility willy nilly;a lot of people get lower rate mobility and they can't then get a car under the scheme.

Your taxes don't pay for the car:the recipient does by paying their higher rate component to motability operations.xx

Thank you for clarifying this. My DD has autism and has only been granted the lower mobility component of DLA even though she has to be accompanied everywhere.

I don't mind too much because I appreciate there are other autistic children out there worse than her, but it clarifies the point that the higher rate mobility component of DLA isn't just for people who aren't able bodied.

ohreally

mspig wrote: »

I do know that you are not allowed to use a mobility car for a partner to go to and from work, it has to be used to help the disabled person, or something that will help them or be for them.

Edit: I missed post #25 (sorry robbiet27) - simply reiterating the post.

terryw

ohreally wrote: »

It could be argued that the father using the car to get to work directly benefits the whole family in so far as it helps to provide access to an earned wage coming into the houshold - isn't that security alone a direct benefit for the "disabled person"?

It could be so argued, but this is completely against the rules of a person claiming nil car tax. The fine is likely to be substantial. Quite rightly in my view. See my link to the official site above and then support this view of yours before the magistrates.

FWIIW, a chap that I know claims the whole car benefit thing including the disabled car-parking permit for his nan. He sees the nan twice a week. Lubbly Jubbly or so he thought. Stopped by police...his answer "Just going to pick up me nan's prescription" Questioned when parking on double yellows...his answer "Just picking me nan up from the doctors'". Then he is stopped late at night delivering Chinese meals....just picking up me nan's takeaway" he responds. Policeman replies "By, bonnie lad, yer nan is a big eater" pointing to the 6 meals on the back seat. End result, fine £600.

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terry

lighton

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Surely the whole point of the OP was that the boy is driven round by his mother in the Motability car that is paid for by his DLA.? The father goes to work in the car that the Mother's DLA pays for.

The fact that the father is using it to go work to keep his family doesn't really seem to be within the spirit of the scheme but it's obviously a grey area as I don't think that many families can be be in this situation.

You get some strange anomalies in the world of benefits; there was a recent post where a couple were each claiming Carers' Allowance to look after each other. This seemed weird to me but it appeared that this situation was actually allowed. You never seem to be able to apply common sense to receiving benefits!

I do agree in some ways but we dont know for sure this is what is hapening if mother is not 100% maybe father is first point of call when help is needed for child .I do agree mobility car shouldnt be used for sole purpose of father but like in my case where do you draw the line. I need to go to work to help support my family so does my partmer we have my sons mobility car he is 10 and my partners to go to work. Are we supposed to have 3 cars. I dont know the ins and out legally for this , but i do know that if i am needed while at work i for my son i would have transport to get to him asap.

ohreally

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

You get some strange anomalies in the world of benefits; there was a recent post where a couple were each claiming Carers' Allowance to look after each other. This seemed weird to me but it appeared that this situation was actually allowed.

I know a couple who do this. They also have two Blue badges which they insist on displaying together in the one car - strange.

lighton

i would love to be able to wave a magic wand and make my son ie normal! but that isnt possible we just have to keep battling through the predudice of everyone than thinks they are being short changed .If they done away with the whole system of dla our children and disabled adults will still be there .And we will look after them. What happens when we are gone .Just leave them to get on with it. Our benefit is there to protect people in a vunerable situation , i work i pay taxes and so does my partner , if it helps others so be it. We are all human arnt we .What is the problem. Some people fall on hard times through no fault of there own not everyone should be tarnished with the same brush. Sorry for being a winge bag just really gets my back up when all people want to do is get one over someone else without knowing fall facts .

Edale

This thread worried me as I use my son's car to go to work and am sure I checked this out before I applied. Anyway I have checked on the help bit of the motability website and this is what is said:
You said:
Do I have to be in the car when it is being used?

Mo says:
The Motability car may only be used by, or for the benefit of the disabled person. The disabled Person does not need to present when it is used. The car may be used by any named driver without the Disabled Person, e.g.. the customers spouse may use the car to travel to work, go shopping and other routine activities from which the disabled person derives an identifiable benefit.

calleyw

Edale wrote: »

This thread worried me as I use my son's car to go to work and am sure I checked this out before I applied. Anyway I have checked on the help bit of the motability website and this is what is said:
You said:
Do I have to be in the car when it is being used?

Mo says:
The Motability car may only be used by, or for the benefit of the disabled person. The disabled Person does not need to present when it is used. The car may be used by any named driver without the Disabled Person, e.g.. the customers spouse may use the car to travel to work, go shopping and other routine activities from which the disabled person derives an identifiable benefit.

Do you have the disabled road tax exemption? This is what seems to be the key issue, not the mobility car part. But it seems from what someone else has said the two now go hand in hand with each other.

If you do then you are not suppose to use it for work as it your personal needs and not the disabled persons needs being met. More info here.

Personally I still find it questionable how the disabled person derives a benefit from someone else using what is in effect their car to drive it to work? (this is not aimed at anyone but just a question in general as I would still have a car even if my husband was not disabled)
Yours


Calley

donnalove

calleyw wrote: »

Do you have the disabled road tax exemption? This is what seems to be the key issue, not the mobility car part. But it seems from what someone else has said the two now go hand in hand with each other.

If you do then you are not suppose to use it for work as it your personal needs and not the disabled persons needs being met. More info here.

Personally I still find it questionable how the disabled person derives a benefit from someone else using what is in effect their car to drive it to work? (this is not aimed at anyone but just a question in general as I would still have a car even if my husband was not disabled)
Yours


Calley

i have said this before on another post ages ago if its your child who has the dissability then regardless of whether you have the tax or motorbility car you can use it, as it is classed as the family car and they do not expect you to have two cars especially if you only claim the tax. I have checked this out with the dvla and dla before i got the tax for my car as i was worried.

lighton

I dont really get what you are saying, If we didnt get a mobility car then we would still get the money what difference does it make.As for tax disc i have just looked where you said .I n the case of people with children going to work does benefit the child, this is a very strange thread.Why are people so concerned about how others use the dla.Yes you are right i would have a car even if i didnt have a mobility car for my son, but i would be getting the money also for him.

If i was taken to court for driving car without son in .It would be laughed out of court.
I choose to go to work term time only, i need the car with me incase i have to get to my child and also to pick him up from school.Its not like im driving it around alday it is just parked.