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Mobility Car Rules - is this genuine?

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  • purple12
    purple12 Posts: 304 Forumite
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    I agree with the above two posts. Claims are checked and you can't make judgements by what you think is happening by snooping over the neighbours fence and assuming you know everything about their family and family's medical history.
  • MSE is full of the judgemental, in the last 24 hours.

    Some people really need to A) get a life and B) try walking in the shoes of those they judge.

    totally correct and equally sad:confused:
  • finlaybaby
    finlaybaby Posts: 19 Forumite
    Sorry, I know there are genuinely needy people out there who struggle to get basic equipment, not to mention transport, to help look after members of their families and improve their quality of life.

    However, I can't help but judge one of my colleagues who gets a brand new people carrier every three years, which she uses as a family car. Her disabled mother is sent to hospital appointments in a taxi and to my knowledge is rarely taken anywhere in the mobility vehicle.

    I'm not sure what could be done to tighten up the system, but assume the amount of money and resources it would take to thoroughly vet every applicant means there will always be people who manage to slip through the net.
  • robbiet27
    robbiet27 Posts: 49 Forumite
    NOTHING is wrong here.

    The husband uses the vehicle to travel to and from work to earn a living for his family - thereby benefitting his family and disabled son. In fact the insurance policy permits this and as you do not have to be the person receiving DLA to drive the car, who else could drive it legally (if not on policy) to and from work! With special arrangements through the insurance company you can even use the car for business use. Would you rather the father not work and claim benefits too? - he is capable of work and rightly so goes to work many others dont.

    You can have as many cars as long as each person qualifies for the High Rate Mobility DLA. Its not as if there getting the cars for nothing - they are entitled to the money but have chosen to pay over most if not all for a car.
  • Kimitatsu
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    From angry/bewildered tax payer who sees able bodied father using mobility car inappropriately or am I bitter!
    to my knowledge is rarely taken anywhere in the mobility vehicle.

    Whilst I understand both sentiments expressed here, this is the crux of the matter isnt it? We can only make judgements on what we see, not neccessarily what is actually happening behind closed doors.

    None of us know the circumstances of these peoples lives nor the stress and strain they must be under having to care for relatives who are in need of constant medical care. Motobility does check out claimants pretty thoroughly and from all the posts that are listed on here, you are all aware that DLA is not easy to get and is under constant review. Certainly getting the higher rate mobility element is very difficult.
    MSE is full of the judgemental, in the last 24 hours.

    Yes I think you are right, and as the credit crunch bites unfortunately I think it will only get worse. Please before you all post, take a couple of seconds to think about the other person and how they must be feeling to ask the question in the first place.
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  • terryw
    terryw Posts: 4,396 Forumite
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    robbiet27 wrote: »
    NOTHING is wrong here.

    The husband uses the vehicle to travel to and from work to earn a living for his family - thereby benefitting his family and disabled son. In fact the insurance policy permits this and as you do not have to be the person receiving DLA to drive the car, who else could drive it legally (if not on policy) to and from work! With special arrangements through the insurance company you can even use the car for business use. Would you rather the father not work and claim benefits too? - he is capable of work and rightly so goes to work many others dont.

    You can have as many cars as long as each person qualifies for the High Rate Mobility DLA. Its not as if there getting the cars for nothing - they are entitled to the money but have chosen to pay over most if not all for a car.

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/MotoringAndTransport/Yourvehicleandlicence/DG_10028003
    Here is a link to the rules for disabled car tax. The vehicle must only be used by the disabled person or for the benefit of the claimant ie. getting shopping or prescriptions for the claimant. It is not permissible for another person(even if the carer) to use the vehicle for his own purposes.

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  • shazrobo
    shazrobo Posts: 3,313 Forumite
    vickiec70 wrote: »
    Hi anyone out there who can answer this question...

    My question is 'Is there a hole in the benefits system?'

    The situation is...

    11 year old boy able bodied, socialises well with Asberger's syndrome, receives DLA and qualifies for getting a car on mobility because he needs driving to school, clubs etc.
    Mother has Lupus and arthritis, receives DLA and qualifies for a mobility car.
    Father, fully able bodied, no disabilities, works full time.

    So, boy has car that mother drives, mothers car is driven soley by father to go to work etc. Can this be right? Is there a hole in the benefits system that allows a family to have 2 mobility cars when 1 of the recipents is only 11 years old? Or can this only be done if there is 'underhandedness' going on?

    Thanks

    From angry/bewildered tax payer who sees able bodied father using mobility car inappropriately or am I bitter!


    if the boy is able bodied, how has he got a mobility car?
    as i understand it if your able bodied you only get the lowest rate of mobility that does not get you a mobility car.
    i have two sons who get the highest rate care and lowest mobility as they need help getting around, but are able bodies
    can someone explain please
    thanks
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  • lighton
    lighton Posts: 135 Forumite
    shazrobo wrote: »
    if the boy is able bodied, how has he got a mobility car?
    as i understand it if your able bodied you only get the lowest rate of mobility that does not get you a mobility car.
    i have two sons who get the highest rate care and lowest mobility as they need help getting around, but are able bodies
    can someone explain please
    thanks

    But you can get high rate , even if not wheelchair bound , if you have a severe mental disability
  • lighton
    lighton Posts: 135 Forumite
    Conor wrote: »
    Is wrong. The car can be used for anyone. The only thing that can't is the tax disc.

    I agree with this , i take my son to school in our mobility car a wouldntnt then be expected to walk home
  • I agree with the people who say that the father IS benefitting his disabled family, by going to work and earning the money.

    Those cars are not free, they are paid for with the claimant's DLA.

    I remember when my son was small, someone noticing me spending the Child Benefit on paying a bill and telling me that I shouldn't as it was for my son. My reply was that it WAS benefiting him as it was helping to maintain a comfortable household..

    Same sort of scenario here I think.
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