Housing for pregnant 17 year old

PasturesNew

dedward67 wrote: »

... seems to be putting a lot of emphasis on a City and Guilds plumbing course...I can see plumbing may be a good trade to get into, but think he needs to get something now.

With the downturn in the housing market, plumbers are being laid off left right and centre as new developments are being mothballed and not started.

All these experienced plumbers will be looking for work/jobs and will be fighting over any jobs/work going. They will also, most likely, be taking much reduced rates over what they were previously earning.

Now might not be a good time for him to do this. It might be better in 5-6 years' time when the marketplace has more opportunity for new tradespeople starting out.

Skint_Lynne

Snooze wrote: »

I said pretty much the exact same thing on page 1 or 2 of this thread and 3 days later am still recovering from the beating I got. :eek:

Too many do-gooder's on these boards. She should just get shut of it and all the problems will be over. People are too wrapped up in their own morals and !!!!!! instead of just waking up to reality and doing the right thing for the kid.

It'll have an ASBO before it's even into double figures.

Rob

Snooze,
I don't think that it's your point of view you are getting hammered for, it's the way you come across, ie"get shut of it". it's not a bit of trash you are talking about here, it's a life. The youngsters involved might shock everybody and just get on with it, get good jobs and be fantastic parents. You should always help family if you can. I just don't think the right thing for the kid is to get rid of it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you should re-think your terminology (Not by sugar coating it, but by using normal terms, eg termination instead of getting shut).

astonsmummy

Snooze wrote: »

I said pretty much the exact same thing on page 1 or 2 of this thread and 3 days later am still recovering from the beating I got. :eek:

Too many do-gooder's on these boards. She should just get shut of it and all the problems will be over. People are too wrapped up in their own morals and !!!!!! instead of just waking up to reality and doing the right thing for the kid.

It'll have an ASBO before it's even into double figures.

Rob

Who has the authority to say what is the right thing for the baby?
There are lots of young mums out there who are doing the right thing!
Myself included, before having my son I was a bit of a tearaway, quit school, never stuck with a job etc.
Now I'm 24 (on sat) have a bright, healthy (sometimes a little !!!!!! though ) son, I work in a care home, have gained a qualification in healthcare and am planning to gain the next level.
Have a nice (HA) home, a car, and a pretty good all round life.
There is nothing wrong with my sons upbringning, he doesnt miss out on anything, so IMO me getting rid would not of been the right thing, oh and I have done it singlehandely for 99% of that time. :rolleyes:

jamtart6

Can he get a bar/pub job locally? OK it'll only be the minimum wage, but it will be something. Good luck to you all.

beyond_skint

Congrats on the baby. And well done to them for accepting their responsibilities instead of just destroying the dear, as so many do :mad::mad:

I would say get on the housing list asap the longer the application date the better. You are in as good a chance as anyone to get a house. Unfortunately foreign people are getting preference but keep going.

I hope it works out and I think your great for standing by her, my mum kicked me out at 20 for far less stress.

All the best

beyond_skint

Could I also say, my hubby was made redundant 3 yrs ago, there isn't much work in cornwall at all. So we started a window cleaning business, it took a while to build up, but we are doing very well. That is an option. All they need is a bucket and sqidgy!! To start. We knocked on every door we could think of and it soon builds up. You can earn as much as you are willing to work.

We went through a tough time and got sick of people saying oohh work in asda or wait tables. Sorry but that is just ridiculous, with a family to support it's better in your interests to stay on the dole. That's the govs fault not yours, it's just the way it is. You need to find an income that is worth working for.

Just a suggestion it's a cheap and easy way to set up your own business.

inmypocketnottheirs

dedward67 wrote: »

Yea, it's certainly something we need to look into as I think he would benefit him at interviews. He's fairly bright (OK he's not gonna be a barrister/Doctor etc!), but sometimes I think it's easy for people to misjudge this beacause of the stutter. It may also give him a confidence boost.

It was really from the confidence point of view I was thinking, plus it would make him a lot more marketable for customer facing jobs, i.e. bar work or similar.

I know you are trying to help this lad and primarily your daughter, I wish you the best of luck and keep us informed.

barnaby-bear

beyond_skint wrote: »

Could I also say, my hubby was made redundant 3 yrs ago, there isn't much work in cornwall at all. So we started a window cleaning business, it took a while to build up, but we are doing very well. That is an option. All they need is a bucket and sqidgy!! To start. We knocked on every door we could think of and it soon builds up. You can earn as much as you are willing to work.

We went through a tough time and got sick of people saying oohh work in asda or wait tables. Sorry but that is just ridiculous, with a family to support it's better in your interests to stay on the dole. That's the govs fault not yours, it's just the way it is. You need to find an income that is worth working for.

Just a suggestion it's a cheap and easy way to set up your own business.

Really at 21 you really believe it's better to be on the dole for the next 49 years!!!!!! So what if he starts on the loading bay at ASDA and makes 35p extra an hour, come 2-3 years if he isn't a muppet he can do forklift / become a supervisor.... you have to be pretty confident that the benefit system stays so generous for 49 years, that too mnay people don't jump on board and kill the golden goose, that the demographic can support a large proportion of young people never working. Asides form the money - how damn depressing - 49 years of dole checks to look forward to - a marriage certificate where the occupation field is left blank or says "actively seeking employment"

margaretclare

I'm glad this young man is doing some voluntary work. This option is often overlooked or forgotten, but in voluntary work it's possible to acquire skills and also, sometimes, to make useful contacts - 'networking' I think it's called.

The young man with a stutter - well, I could describe the difficulties my eldest GD has gone through, with dyslexia, poor GCSE results. Even working on a market stall gave her 'management' skills. She eventually got the job of her dreams, as a youth worker. And how did she acquire the skills she now uses in her job, taking young people canoeing, sailing etc? By her years of membership in the Sea Cadets and the practical skills and qualifications she acquired there.

Don't discount any voluntary work. Just showing the commitment to turning up when asked and doing what is asked, is valuable and can go on a c.v.

TTMCMschine

caringnurse wrote: »

If teens KNEW for sure they would NOT be looked after and 'molly coddled' they definately wouldn't get pregnant!

Yes, of course when girls in the past risked being disowned by their families, or the community, or ruined their chances of getting married as a means to financial security, or face horrific back street abortions - they never got pregnant then did they?
Teens always have and always will get pregnant. I suspect the majority of them fall for stupidity, assume it won't happen to them, or are misinformed e.g. can't get pregnant first time etc, in the heat of the moment, rather than doing it purposefully to get a house. I am not saying it's right or wrong, just that it happens.

Snooze - beleive it or not, it's not people having do-good views about abortion that stops us from agreeing with you - it's actually people's beliefs. I think abortion is wrong - fact. I also think here we are going on about how they have no money, how the baby doesn't stand a chance etc. I've met plenty of middle class wasters/scroungers in my life. Some are heroine addicts (one up for manslaughter), or have no job, sitting at home. The difference is their parents (stupidly) support them financially, they don't get slated. They'll probably sort themselves out, and good luck to them, because at any age you can never be prepared for the changes a baby can make to your life. A baby, no matter the circumstances can bring alot of joy into people's lives. It's up to everybody to stick together, offer support where they can, and hopefully the young man will really be inspired to want to support his young family.