Which mattress? (merged threads)

mollymo_2

Ok, it looks like the healthbeds matt is in pole position for me - especially with it twice winning the Which? award which is a recognisable endorsement.

Does anyone however have the full report to view as I noticed this a full foam matt but I' keen to see how the spring and foam 'mix' matts performed in these tests?


Secondly, I've seen another full foam type also claiming to be rated highly by Which? (memory - mattress . co .uk)


Anybody have one of these or know more about them?


Thanks in advance. :T

TomsMom

mollymo wrote: »

Does anyone however have the full report to view as I noticed this a full foam matt but I' keen to see how the spring and foam 'mix' matts performed in these tests?

I don't think you can view Which reports online unless you become a member. I think they sometimes have an offer whereby you pay something like a £1 for a trial of 3 months, not sure.

If ever I want to see a Which report I go to the library. If you know the date of the report or which issue it's in then you should be able to find it easily.

lynnexxxo

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

I didn't actually realise that Ikea don't do a superking mattress. However I shouldn't be surprised as their whole mattress system seems to be modular.

You didn't say what model you bought, but does it have one of their mattress pads on top?

Also are the mattress pads zip & link or do they come in superking size?

If the pads do come in superking then the cheapest solution would be to buy one of those.

For future reference, did you know that UK and Ikea (continental) sizes for superking size are the same. So when you do replace it you wouldn't need to buy it from Ikea, and could buy a good quality one instead.

The intial ikea mattress was the sultan hassleback,which was replaced by the the sultan hagavik. They both came as two single mattresses with a huge big cover that you put them in and zipped them together (which, believe me involved a lot of swearing and sweating). I have to admit, assuming you don't lie in the big dip in the middle the hagavik is very comfy (i've never had a medium mattress before).

I never bought the mattress pad as I felt that a new mattress should not need one (plus the fact it was another hundred odd quid...)

Ikea have agreed to refund it and pick it up so now i just need to find a new one ....

78mjt

I love reading the threads about mattresses, people get so mad with each other...

My advice, get yourself to somewhere like Dreams and try them out!!!

RELENTLESSPUSH

Hi there all...

Bought a memory foam mattress just over a year ago and found it to be great until about 6 months later and it started to leave indentations and both myself and my partner started to suffer pins and needles nightly. I put this down to not moving about enough when asleep. Eventually turned the mattress over to the foam (non memory foam) side and used that side since and it went the same way. I am a tall lad and weigh about 17 stone but my partner weighs only 11 and we both found the memory foam option to be a disaster.

So, we are about to order a new mattress and think that this may be an option -

S100 Pocket Sprung Mattress from Marks and Spencer

Anyone have any experience with these mattresses ?


We have slats on our bed but that is not an issue as I can top with hardboard.

We just want a decent mattress with decent support so can anyone advise please.

Tim_Deegan

mollymo wrote: »

Hi Tim,

Thanks for your post.

I understand entirely what you're saying about it being comment sense to buy a turnable mattress so it lasts longer. It's just that the other salesman also made a very good point about stocking this kind if they thought they were a good idea - as I said, they had mattresses ranging from very cheap to very expensive, so I would imagine this type would simply be more expensive than the single sided mattresses. (A bit like the pocket sprung mattresses they sold - the fewer springs the cheaper it was, and so forth). As I do understand his point about peoples budgets being different.

It's probably more to do with the fact that they don't sell the brands that make two sided mattresses. And that if they knew who they were then they would definately sell them. This is why they are getting more and more popular.

I bet they stock many big brands whos quality is terrible, but they sell because of the power of advertising (not mentioning any names).

As for the price, in theory it would be more expensive, but this would all depend on the mark up that the seller adds. Some add between 400 and 500%. Although as I've said all along, you get more for your money with smaller independent manufacturers, so this would offset some of the extra cost.

mollymo wrote: »

He didn't say that memory foam was a gimmick. Simply that a 2 sided mem-foam mattress was a gimmick, which is why nobody really made them or sold them.

2 sided isn't a gimmick when it can more than double the life of your mattress. The only reason why not many people sell them is because not many people make them. I bet if a rep from one of the manufacturers who do make them walked into his shop, then he would bite their hand off to sell them. This is actually happening more and more.

mollymo wrote: »

As I said, I think the 2 sided point can't be argued about when talking about a sprung mattress as this has been the case for years. My suspicion is whether this can be applied to a mem-foam mattress too? The salesman pretty much said that if it was needed, they'd sell them - it's just that they would be a little more expensive than a single sided type.

ALL mattresses will last longer if turned on a regular basis. As you say you understand why sprung mattresses need turning, well the best type of memory foam mattresses are those with pocket springs.

It isn't as important to turn open coil sprung, or reflex foam mattresses, but they won't give as food support anyway, and are regarded as lower down the range.

As far as I know it's only pocket sprung/memory foam that are available two sided.

mollymo wrote: »

One thing I can't understand is whether having memory foam on the bottom of the mattress could damage it, as it would be compressed every night for 8 hours or so?

Memory foam isn't damaged at all by compression because it is open celled, so the air can escape and doesn't cause stress on the structure of the foam.

Reflex foam however is a closed cell construction. This means it is constructed of loads of small bubbles which over time with constant squashing, will start to burst. This is why after a year or so you can notice a dip in reflex foam mattresses. Even the manufacturers say that a slight dip is acceptable, and won't accept it as a fault. Although any dipmeans that you no longer get the support you did when it was new.

mollymo wrote: »

BTW, we've had a holiday home in Florida for quite a few years and can say with experience that you shouldn't look 'that way' over the Atlantic for innovation! It's the home of 'gimmicks' and outrageous advertising! :rotfl:

I'd say they were a good decade behind! (Who was it that said ' 2 countries divided by a common language') LOL

I don't think you quite understand me. Most sales and marketing gimmicks and hype start of in the USA. Then unfortunately they end up over here. So 10 or so years ago they started pushing non turn mattresses as a feature, but now people are starting to realise that it dramatically reduces the life of their mattress, so they are no longer convinced by the gimmicks. So now that a huge proportion of mattresses out there are non turn, they are now prepared to pay extra for mattresses that are two sided.

Tim_Deegan

mollymo wrote: »

Ok, it looks like the healthbeds matt is in pole position for me - especially with it twice winning the Which? award which is a recognisable endorsement.

Does anyone however have the full report to view as I noticed this a full foam matt but I' keen to see how the spring and foam 'mix' matts performed in these tests?


Secondly, I've seen another full foam type also claiming to be rated highly by Which? (memory - mattress . co .uk)


Anybody have one of these or know more about them?


Thanks in advance. :T

Unfortunately Which only tested 3 pocket sprung/memory foam mattresses, so you can't get a good comparison. This is why they are going to contact me again when they next do a report.

BraveNewWorld

Thanks for the reply Tim, that was very useful to know. It looks like now that i will be going more towards the Kozeesleep Orthopocket. managed to find it at a good price from Bedlum-Beds

bedlum-beds.co.uk/product/KOZEESLEEP-Orthopocket-Pocket-Sprung-Super-King-Size-Mattress.-634.00/

What i did notice was that it didn't mention anything about being able to turn on this model, can you clarify this?
Also there seems to be two KozeeSleeps, is this bed from the recommended one?

Thanks again

Tim_Deegan

lynnexxxo wrote: »

The intial ikea mattress was the sultan hassleback,which was replaced by the the sultan hagavik. They both came as two single mattresses with a huge big cover that you put them in and zipped them together (which, believe me involved a lot of swearing and sweating). I have to admit, assuming you don't lie in the big dip in the middle the hagavik is very comfy (i've never had a medium mattress before).

I never bought the mattress pad as I felt that a new mattress should not need one (plus the fact it was another hundred odd quid...)

Ikea have agreed to refund it and pick it up so now i just need to find a new one ....

In that case go for a British made one from a smaller independent manufacturer. You should get far better quality for your money.

Tim_Deegan

RELENTLESSPUSH wrote: »

Hi there all...

Bought a memory foam mattress just over a year ago and found it to be great until about 6 months later and it started to leave indentations and both myself and my partner started to suffer pins and needles nightly. I put this down to not moving about enough when asleep. Eventually turned the mattress over to the foam (non memory foam) side and used that side since and it went the same way. I am a tall lad and weigh about 17 stone but my partner weighs only 11 and we both found the memory foam option to be a disaster.

So, we are about to order a new mattress and think that this may be an option -

S100 Pocket Sprung Mattress from Marks and Spencer

Anyone have any experience with these mattresses ?


We have slats on our bed but that is not an issue as I can top with hardboard.

We just want a decent mattress with decent support so can anyone advise please.

You didn't say the make and model of the memory foam mattress, so I can't say for sure, but I presume it is a reflex foam/memory foam mattress?

If so then the problem could be one of two things:

1. The memory foam could be of a poor quality (probably imported).
2. Or more likely it is the reflex foam under the memory foam that is dipping. This is quite common as I described a couple of posts ago.

Don't be put off memory foam by one poor quality mattress.