Which mattress? (merged threads)

Tim_Deegan

doz123 wrote: »

I must add to all who have posted that Quidco is great if you are not a member join now. I purchassed a Millbrook 1700 pocket sprung divan with drawers the cheapest price I could find after visiting stores and going on line was £900. With going through Quidco I got the bed for less than £700 and I must say the bed is wonderful I have never slept so well.

And Quidco is a great cashback site that cover loads of stores, why go to the shops when everthing is cheaper on line.

I disagree that stores inflate their prices on line, I have foung exactly the opposite and beleive me I have done a lot of research.

Hi.

I'm trying to keep an open mind, and do some research, but the only bed retailers who offer big discounts through Quidco are KD Beds and Sleeping Solutions, or is there another that I have missed???

The two mentioned above are both very very expensive, and I can't see how you could save money through them. So who was it that you bought it from, if you don't mind me asking? Also what size, and how many drawers?

I presume it was the Jasmin?

Tim_Deegan

Frugaloodle wrote: »

We bought our Health Beds Memoryflex double mattress from KD Beds. That's the mattress that has come top of Which? magazine's tests a couple of times.

KDBeds' price online for this mattress was £499 including delivery, which was already a good price that compared well with other companies. By going through Quidco, KDBeds give you a code to get a 5% discount. This took the price of our mattress down to £474, so it was getting better... Then their cashback through Quidco is a massive 20%, so we also got £95 back!

That means we only paid £380 for the Memory Flex mattress, and I'm pretty confident that is a brilliant price that can't be beaten anywhere else.

By the way, (Tim might not realise this), KDBeds also have a price promise that they're the cheapest, so if you do find a bed cheaper elsewhere, you can let them know and they match it. We were really impressed. :T

I have to admit that the price for the memory flex mattress is low. However it would be worth checking with Healthbeds that it is the same model, and not made for KD, as it doesn't appear to have the micro quilted fabric on the KD site.

mollymo_2

Hey Frugoloodle, this sounds great! :T


Is the deal still on now and, can you post a link to the Which? report that this mattress came top of? (If you have it I'd appreciate it - I know it's cheeky but it would be cheaper than buying it myself - I'm trying to be a money saver of course :j

I presume if it's come top of the Which? report twice it's a double sided one as Tim often suggests is better? (This makes sense to me, but the 3 shops I've been to so far have looked at me as if I'm a mad woman when I've asked for a double sided mem-foam mattress - only a few retailers on-line seem to have this kind - 2 selling the same brand )


Thanks in advance.

Tim_Deegan

mollymo wrote: »

I presume if it's come top of the Which? report twice it's a double sided one as Tim often suggests is better? (This makes sense to me, but the 3 shops I've been to so far have looked at me as if I'm a mad woman when I've asked for a double sided mem-foam mattress - only a few retailers on-line seem to have this kind - 2 selling the same brand )


Thanks in advance.

It isn't 2 sided. Which magazine were given wrong information when they said that you could only get non turn memory foam mattresses. They have actually spoken to me, and will be contacting me again when they next do a report on memory foam mattresses.

There aren't many, but there are a few manufacturers who make two sided memory foam mattresses.

doz123

Hi Tim

Our bed was from Sleeping Solutions the bed was Millbrook Birch 1700 with 2 drawers and it was £869 and I have just received £174 pound back from Quidco. By the way I had been in contact with Millbrook Beds and they said they had changed the name of the Birch to Mars but it is still the same specification.

BraveNewWorld

Hi all, its taken me a good few hours to go through this thread but been fully worth it and has stopped me going to Dreams!

I am looking for good quality firm to medium Super Kingsize mattress which is pocket sprung.
I DONT want memory foam or any fancy gimmicks such as pillow top etc.

There have been one or two brands that seem to actually get any kind of credit on this topic and I have managed to track down the Kozeesleep Caversham which also seems to be the choice for a few others on here.


Specification (from Bedstar.co.uk)

1100 Pocket Sprung Unit
Pre-Compressed Polyester
Sumptuous Layers Of Filling
Hypo Allergenic Properties
Belgian Damask Cover
Hand Tufted
Dual Sided Mattress
Flag Stitched Handles
Breather Vents
Medium-Firm Tension

It ticks most of the boxes such as double sided, good support, no memory foam but at 450 pounds would this be considered too cheap for a decent quality super king size mattress?

Any feedback would be very helpful.

Thanks

Tim_Deegan

BraveNewWorld wrote: »

Hi all, its taken me a good few hours to go through this thread but been fully worth it and has stopped me going to Dreams!

I am looking for good quality firm to medium Super Kingsize mattress which is pocket sprung.
I DONT want memory foam or any fancy gimmicks such as pillow top etc.

There have been one or two brands that seem to actually get any kind of credit on this topic and I have managed to track down the Kozeesleep Caversham which also seems to be the choice for a few others on here.


Specification (from Bedstar.co.uk)

1100 Pocket Sprung Unit
Pre-Compressed Polyester
Sumptuous Layers Of Filling
Hypo Allergenic Properties
Belgian Damask Cover
Hand Tufted
Dual Sided Mattress
Flag Stitched Handles
Breather Vents
Medium-Firm Tension

It ticks most of the boxes such as double sided, good support, no memory foam but at 450 pounds would this be considered too cheap for a decent quality super king size mattress?

Any feedback would be very helpful.

Thanks

The Caversham is actually medium, not medium to firm.

It is a good quality mattress, but the Duchess is Kozeesleep's top of the range medium pocket sprung mattress. And the Orthopocket is their top of the range medium to firm mattress.

Memory foam is not a a gimmick, unlike pillow tops.

mollymo_2

I will do just that, Frugaloodle - thanks!!!

The salesman in the shops we visited were dismissive of the 2 sided mem-foam mattresses to say the least, making me feel a bit of an idiot to be honest...

I challenged one about this in greater detail, and was told that if they existed (which he claimed working in the bedding industry for over 20 years, he doubted) then it was probably just a gimmick designed for promotion purposes and not something any of the big bed companies had ever produced.

He also claimed that they regularly attended industry trade shows and had manufacturers 'beating down their door' to sell them their products but had never been offered a mattress like this. When I challenged further, stating that this was probably to save money, he came back with the example that they had mattresses starting at £100 ranging to £2000, and that if this was a revolutionary idea, then they would stock them - as there was a price / budget range for every customer type . (He did concede that this was certainly the case with a single sided pocket sprung mattress, but was adamant that if needed with memory foam then why would the manufacturer offer (in some cases) offer a long guarantee period)

It's so difficult to know who's telling the truth and who the 'experts' actually are. He sounded very convincing, and this also made perfect sense, but I know he was probably on commission! :eek:

I almost feel that I've looked into this whole thing too much! 8 years ago when we bought the last one we simply went to 2 local shops with a budget in mind and chose the bed that felt best - a strategy that I must say 'done the business' !!!



I'm now wondering if the internet is actually a good thing at all!!! LOL.


How do you find the healthbeds one? is it soft or firm? and have you found it too warm?

Tim_Deegan

mollymo wrote: »

I will do just that, Frugaloodle - thanks!!!

The salesman in the shops we visited were dismissive of the 2 sided mem-foam mattresses to say the least, making me feel a bit of an idiot to be honest...

I challenged one about this in greater detail, and was told that if they existed (which he claimed working in the bedding industry for over 20 years, he doubted) then it was probably just a gimmick designed for promotion purposes and not something any of the big bed companies had ever produced.

He also claimed that they regularly attended industry trade shows and had manufacturers 'beating down their door' to sell them their products but had never been offered a mattress like this. When I challenged further, stating that this was probably to save money, he came back with the example that they had mattresses starting at £100 ranging to £2000, and that if this was a revolutionary idea, then they would stock them - as there was a price / budget range for every customer type . (He did concede that this was certainly the case with a single sided pocket sprung mattress, but was adamant that if needed with memory foam then why would the manufacturer offer (in some cases) offer a long guarantee period)

It's so difficult to know who's telling the truth and who the 'experts' actually are. He sounded very convincing, and this also made perfect sense, but I know he was probably on commission! :eek:

I almost feel that I've looked into this whole thing too much! 8 years ago when we bought the last one we simply went to 2 local shops with a budget in mind and chose the bed that felt best - a strategy that I must say 'done the business' !!!



I'm now wondering if the internet is actually a good thing at all!!! LOL.


How do you find the healthbeds one? is it soft or firm? and have you found it too warm?

Unfortunately it is often the case that sales reps will dismiss anything that they don't sell, and this is probably the same in any industry. This is probably why I have been accused of it myself. However all it takes is common sense:
For years we have all been told that we should turn mattresses on a regular basis to make them wear evenly and prolong their life. This is still the case, as the manufacturers have done nothing at all to prolong the life of the springs when you don't turn them. I have actually discussed this with different manufacturers who have admitted to me (because I am in the trade) that the only reason they make non turn mattresses is to save money on production.

Mattresses aren't actually designed to last as long as they used to be, they are designed for maximum profit, and a non turn mattress will return maximum profit.

I spoke to someone recently who has spent a few years in America, and she said that out there it has now gone full circle. They now advertise two sided mattresses as a feature, because people have started to realise that non tune mattresses don't last anywhere near as long.

Like I said before, it's common sense, and not a gimmick.

mollymo_2

Hi Tim,

Thanks for your post.

I understand entirely what you're saying about it being comment sense to buy a turnable mattress so it lasts longer. It's just that the other salesman also made a very good point about stocking this kind if they thought they were a good idea - as I said, they had mattresses ranging from very cheap to very expensive, so I would imagine this type would simply be more expensive than the single sided mattresses. (A bit like the pocket sprung mattresses they sold - the fewer springs the cheaper it was, and so forth). As I do understand his point about peoples budgets being different.

He didn't say that memory foam was a gimmick. Simply that a 2 sided mem-foam mattress was a gimmick, which is why nobody really made them or sold them.

As I said, I think the 2 sided point can't be argued about when talking about a sprung mattress as this has been the case for years. My suspicion is whether this can be applied to a mem-foam mattress too? The salesman pretty much said that if it was needed, they'd sell them - it's just that they would be a little more expensive than a single sided type.

One thing I can't understand is whether having memory foam on the bottom of the mattress could damage it, as it would be compressed every night for 8 hours or so?

As I said, this is so confusing!!!

BTW, we've had a holiday home in Florida for quite a few years and can say with experience that you shouldn't look 'that way' over the Atlantic for innovation! It's the home of 'gimmicks' and outrageous advertising! :rotfl:

I'd say they were a good decade behind! (Who was it that said ' 2 countries divided by a common language') LOL