Which mattress? (merged threads)

markp1960

witney123 wrote: »

I see so if I can get the Vista for under £400.00 its not a bad deal but just a case of yer pays yer money etc

Both matts in question are of a reasonable quality, of the two the Vista is more likely to be suitable for you but only you can be the judge, have you actually tried them?

As for the matt you already have almost any reasonable pocket spring mattress will be better, there are lots of people suffering because they are on an unforgiving mattress like the type you seem to have.

Tim_Deegan

markp1960 wrote: »

Tim, I have noticed you make this comment regularly and I am intrigued as to how they get 'damaged'. I have been selling pocket spring mattresses for more years than I care to remember and I have genuinely never heard of this until I came on here.

It's a fact that much of the bed industry don't want disclosed, because they like to tell people "the more pocket springs the better". They even convince retailers that this is true. But if you think about it, to fit twice as many springs in a mattress they have to be half the size. They also have to be half the tension (otherwise the mattress would be rock hard). So the springs are smaller and weaker.

As you know pocket springs are more fragile than open coil due to the fact that the springs work independently. Sit can take as little as someone standing on a mattress or kneeling on it to damage a pocket spring as small and weak as this...........I did spend 16 years in engineering.

witney123

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quote=markp1960;19212879]Both matts in question are of a reasonable quality, of the two the Vista is more likely to be suitable for you but only you can be the judge, have you actually tried them?

In a word no, I am falling into a schoolboy error I know after spending a small fortune on bedroom furniture, I am trying to cut corners I guess and save some money, where I live in oxfordshire the lack of independant dealers selling anything decent at a reasonable cost only leaves me dreams, bensons sleep depot, furniture village with their over inflated mark ups so they can offer 50% off to a nearer true value if that, so I was going to wing it as anything would be an improvement.

As for the matt you already have almost any reasonable pocket spring mattress will be better, there are lots of people suffering because they are on an unforgiving mattress like the type you seem to have.

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it's about as unforgiving as a scorned woman.

witney123

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

It's a fact that much of the bed industry don't want disclosed, because they like to tell people "the more pocket springs the better". They even convince retailers that this is true. But if you think about it, to fit twice as many springs in a mattress they have to be half the size. They also have to be half the tension (otherwise the mattress would be rock hard). So the springs are smaller and weaker.

As you know pocket springs are more fragile than open coil due to the fact that the springs work independently. Sit can take as little as someone standing on a mattress or kneeling on it to damage a pocket spring as small and weak as this...........I did spend 16 years in engineering.

I think I have seen some as much as 4,000 springs + at john lewis

Tim_Deegan

witney123 wrote: »

I think I have seen some as much as 4,000 springs + at john lewis

Stay well away from them. They are just yet another gimmick that will make the mattress more fragile.

e102gamma

They were probably counting the springs in the divan too. I know at least Harrison do that.

edit: I just looked and it appears not. They must be tiny.

Tim_Deegan

e102gamma wrote: »

They were probably counting the springs in the divan too. I know at least Harrison do that.

edit: I just looked and it appears not. They must be tiny.

Harrison shouldn't do that. Are you sure it wasn't the retailer?

e102gamma

Pretty sure. They did state the spring counts separately as well, they just made the joint total the headline figure.

Tim_Deegan

e102gamma wrote: »

Pretty sure. They did state the spring counts separately as well, they just made the joint total the headline figure.

More sales hype then.........they should never include the springs in the base.

witney123

I surprised that JL are missleading, this seems part and parcel when it comes to the bed industry