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  • I'd describe it more as feeling it mould around you, so in the sense of knowing it's memory foam, you can definately feel the benefits.

    Yes, you don't sink in so far it's hard to move about and it's easy to change positions.

    I'd never had a bed with tufts before, so wasn't sure what to expect. They aren't hard or solid buttons, they have what are either foam circles or some other soft material where the tufts are, so once lay or sitting on you can't feel them there at all.

    Where the body's heavier eg head, back, bottom you sink in so you don't know where the bits that are tufted are, but I find my legs don't sink in as far, so I can tell where the tufts are by my feet. I expect thats what a non-memory foam tufted bed feels like though? - does that make sense?!

    I'll put a couple of images up of the mattress if anyone wants if that helps!


    OK, thanks, that would be great.
    I am on the verge of ordering one. Only thing is I can't try it first as they are not sold in Ireland. A bit nervous about that.
  • Tim_Deegan wrote: »
    Obviously pocket springs, felt, thin layers of reflex foam, 2" of 60 to 70kg per m3 high quality British made visco elastic memory foam (on each side). Then covered with a 4 way stretch knitted fabric top and bottom, and damask on the sides with vents.

    I went to a local manufacturer to see what they could do. They fill their pocket sprung ones with horse hair, cashmere, wool and polyester - is that good?

    They said even in the kingsize and superking size they only use 1000 pocket springs, which surprised me! They said they make it firmer with the fillings or how taught the springs are. Does that sound right? or should i be asking for more springs?

    When discussing the memory foam mattress, they said they use 2 inch V60 foam, but that the pocket springs are empty, ie they dont use any of the wool etc - Does that sound right? Id always assumed it would be filled like a normal pocket sprung, with the thin layer of memory foam ontop, i guess i was completely off the mark with that one?!

    Thanks again for the great advice :beer:
  • Tim_Deegan
    Tim_Deegan Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    I went to a local manufacturer to see what they could do. They fill their pocket sprung ones with horse hair, cashmere, wool and polyester - is that good?

    Horse hair is the old way of doing it. If you have ever slept on a very old mattress you may have noticed that they can be quite itchy, and sometimes lumpy. This is due to the horse hairs starting to poke through. Thick layers of felt are used in modern mattresses, and unlike some modern ways of doing things, the felt actually works better than horse hair.

    There are many mattresses on the market that claim to contain cashmere and lambs wool, but these are usually made from polyester with very small amounts mixed in (just so they can say it contains them).
    They said even in the kingsize and superking size they only use 1000 pocket springs, which surprised me! They said they make it firmer with the fillings or how taught the springs are. Does that sound right? or should i be asking for more springs?

    I would have thought the super king size would actually contain 1200 springs as it is 20% bigger than a king size. However it would still be called a 1000 pocket sprung mattress because the industry standard is to quote the number of springs used in a king size mattress.

    The fillings can alter the firmness of the mattress, but only slightly. Usually to make big changes in firmness they would use springs made from different gauges of steel.
    When discussing the memory foam mattress, they said they use 2 inch V60 foam, but that the pocket springs are empty, ie they dont use any of the wool etc - Does that sound right? Id always assumed it would be filled like a normal pocket sprung, with the thin layer of memory foam ontop, i guess i was completely off the mark with that one?!

    2" of V60 memory foam is perfect, but idealy it should be on both sides is possible.

    Pocket springs are supposed to be empty otherwise they wouldn't work freely.
  • Evening all,

    So I took the plunge today and went out to a local independent bed shop and tried out about 20 different mattresses.
    Lots of the memory foam ones were really comfortable, but there was one from Kaymed (a Pocket 1600 Luxury?) which was incredibly comfortable.

    Now i've read this thread and seen Tim's comments that Kaymed are expensive mostly for the name. This mattress was in their sale at £599 for the King Size which didn't seem too outrageous compared to the other brands i'd not heard of the shop had in stock....

    Online this mattress seems to go for nearer £700.

    My question I guess is whether there's another branded similar mattress I should hunt out to try now that I know this one suits me?

    On another point I have decided to replace my bed entirely rather than just hte mattress so have been looking at both divan bases and wooden frames. I found a really nice looking and sturdy feeling 'real wood' (well mango wood?!) frame from a company called Furniturelink (found it online here - http://www.furniturelink.ie/details.php). Anyone offer any tips on this brand?

    Thanks,

    Steve
  • Tim_Deegan
    Tim_Deegan Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    stek2008 wrote: »
    Evening all,

    So I took the plunge today and went out to a local independent bed shop and tried out about 20 different mattresses.
    Lots of the memory foam ones were really comfortable, but there was one from Kaymed (a Pocket 1600 Luxury?) which was incredibly comfortable.

    Now i've read this thread and seen Tim's comments that Kaymed are expensive mostly for the name. This mattress was in their sale at £599 for the King Size which didn't seem too outrageous compared to the other brands i'd not heard of the shop had in stock....

    Online this mattress seems to go for nearer £700.

    My question I guess is whether there's another branded similar mattress I should hunt out to try now that I know this one suits me?

    On another point I have decided to replace my bed entirely rather than just hte mattress so have been looking at both divan bases and wooden frames. I found a really nice looking and sturdy feeling 'real wood' (well mango wood?!) frame from a company called Furniturelink (found it online here - http://www.furniturelink.ie/details.php). Anyone offer any tips on this brand?

    Thanks,

    Steve


    Do you have a link for the mattress, and which store did you find it in?

    The link to the bedstead doesn't work.:confused:
  • stek2008
    stek2008 Posts: 96 Forumite
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    Tim_Deegan wrote: »
    Do you have a link for the mattress, and which store did you find it in?

    The link to the bedstead doesn't work.:confused:

    Strange - http://www.mattressnextday.co.uk/mattress/84/Kaymed-1600-visco-pocket/ is the same mattress. on this page: http://www.furniturelink.ie/main.php?p=2# scroll down to 'cube'. The store I saw them in is a small independent called the bed superstore in Bristol... Cheers, Steve
  • Tim_Deegan
    Tim_Deegan Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    stek2008 wrote: »
    Strange - http://www.mattressnextday.co.uk/mattress/84/Kaymed-1600-visco-pocket/ is the same mattress. on this page: http://www.furniturelink.ie/main.php?p=2# scroll down to 'cube'. The store I saw them in is a small independent called the bed superstore in Bristol... Cheers, Steve

    You haven't ordered the mattress yet have you?I see that the mattress is rated as soft to medium. Well with 85kg memory foam (which is too high density), I really don't know how the mattress could be soft to medium unless the memory foam layer is very thin.If I were you I'd try and get the whole spec for the mattress.
  • stek2008
    stek2008 Posts: 96 Forumite
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    Tim_Deegan wrote: »
    You haven't ordered the mattress yet have you?I see that the mattress is rated as soft to medium. Well with 85kg memory foam (which is too high density), I really don't know how the mattress could be soft to medium unless the memory foam layer is very thin.If I were you I'd try and get the whole spec for the mattress.

    No, not ordered yet. Waiting for a call on Monday to confirm when the frame would be available (only had doubles instock) before making any decision.

    It was definitely one of the firmest mattresses I tried. This link from Kaymed themselves suggests there are two versions:

    http://www.kaymedworld.com/p_v1600.asp

    are the specs on there any easier to gauge?

    Thanks for taking a look Tim, you do a great service on this forum.

    Steve
  • All this memory foam madness has sent me mad. The thickness, firmness, non-turn or turn, density pocket sprung, pocket sprung in foam etc.. I spent Saturday trying out all types of mattress and found one that seems to do everything that the memory is supposed to as far as I have found so far. The mattress in question is a Millbrook Vision which is not usually available on the web. Not sure why.
    It contains around 2500 individually hand nested pocket springs mattress.
    3 rows of traditional hand side stitching to borders
    - 8 upholstered handles
    - 16 brass ventilators
    - Hypo allergenic fillings
    - Layer of resilient polyester & cotton
    - Layer of soft lambswool & Silk
    - Two fold jacquard woven damask cover
    not sure what all that means but it feels pretty damn good to me. The only thing is I am not looking forward to turn it as it is pretty heavy.
  • Hi all

    I've been trawling the vast amounts of useful information on this thread, as I have been trying to decide on a new bed but cannot find any reviews on one I have considered. My current bed is a sealy, though I chose badly and went for a 'firm' posturepedic it has been the most comfortable bed I've had to date, but now i'm looking for a bit more comfort.

    On that note, I was thinking of sticking with the same brand but going a little higher on the spec. I was considering the Sealy RPC 7000 (or 5000) and wondered if anyone had tried it or knew if it was decent? I can't seem to find any reviews on it. http://www.sealy.co.uk/reflexcollection.html

    It looks like I can get the 7000 in king size for about £760.

    After reading some of the info in this thread about sealy becoming part of silentnight and quality, I wondered if I should be put off? Also - if the very well informed Tim has any info above the good marketing spin it would be most useful :D

    The other one I was considering was a more traditional sealy bed with a layer of memory foam in it, in BHS home, on 'sale' at £650 - but is designed 'exclusively for BHS' so am a bit dubious about the value as I have no more info or comparison to make!

    Thanks for all the info so far!
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