Orange to start charging for calls to 0500/0800/0808 Freephone Numbers.

pricefighter

Are you are mixing up O2 mobile, with 0207/0208 geographic numbers?

Most mobile overide cheap call providers as well as offering 0800 access numbers offer geographical 0207/0208 access numbers,which you can dial direct out of your inclusive minutes any way.Their seems no point therefore using the 0200 number to dial a 0800 number,when you can dial a geo number direct.

Alternative geo numbers to some 0800 numbers can also be found on the
https://www.saynoto0870.com site

In some cases where you dont have a geo number the 0200 access would of course prove handy.

Steve_xx

pricefighter wrote:

Are you are mixing up O2 mobile, with 0207/0208 geographic numbers?

Most mobile overide cheap call providers as well as offering 0800 access numbers offer geographical 0207/0208 access numbers,which you can dial direct out of your inclusive minutes any way.Their seems no point therefore using the 0200 number to dial a 0800 number,when you can dial a geo number direct.

Alternative geo numbers to some 0800 numbers can also be found on the
https://www.saynoto0870.com site

In some cases where you dont have a geo number the 0200 access would of course prove handy.

No I am not mixing up with mobile operator o2.

I know that cheap call providers offer 0207/0208 geographical number access as well as 0800/0808. I'm saying that Orange, if it realises that people are using 0207/0208 numbers to onward dial, in place of 0800 or its own standard tariff, then they will seek to stop it. They will seek to stop it regardless of whether these minutes are inclusive within your bundle because you would effectively be depriving them of what they see as their due revenue.

You keep mentioning 0200 numbers. What are they?

pricefighter

My posting no (38) in this thread, was in reply to 2ax posting no (33) about an 0200 number. You then enter the discussion at no (39) i assumed reasonably but incorrectly that you were talking about 0200 also.

0200 is a little used geo dialling code.Pre-dial have a little known number on it,which if you call it allows you to ring 0800 numbers.Thus avoiding any charges to ring them.It does not work from all mobile networks.

I agree that Orange or any other supplier come to that could charge, or bar calls to any cheap call intl access number,whatever the dialling code.

2ax

pricefighter wrote:

It doesnt matter really does it? you will still be able to use 020 geographical access numbers out of your inclusive minutes.

I was not discussing using for example 1899's 0207 vs 08081 numbers as callthrough for other destinations, and thinking of unnecessary complication to still reach the 08081. If I was, you would have been right.

I was thinking of enabling other 0800 numbers (where this is the only number known - Orange even have a large number of these, 0800079xxxx, themselves) from inclusive minutes in future, rather than separately charged on top, as some mobiles do (it sounds like Orange will).

Steve_xx, the company Pre-dial has an 0200 number that can be used as a callthrough number for 0800 numbers. That is what I was on about.

I think we are all more or less agreeing, but getting confused by minor details.

nb - I spent so long on this that it is actually a cross-post with pricefighter's, but I'll leave it now

pricefighter

Thanks 2ax i can see where you were coming from.

2ax

Thanks. Having just given notice to switch from contract to payg on one number, i'll soon be calling 08000797777 to register the new SIM.

Another odd feature that already exists is that new contract customers on OVP tariffs pay for the initial 0800 registration call, as 150 doesn't seem to be able to get to the right department. Or I didn't manage it a year ago.

imported_Riz

No offence meant Pricefighter - I was just interested to know if any Orange employees have further news on this. It was not meant to be me doubting your info. Thanks for sharing the news with us.

pricefighter

imported_Riz wrote:

No offence meant Pricefighter - I was just interested to know if any Orange employees have further news on this. It was not meant to be me doubting your info. Thanks for sharing the news with us.

No hard feelings :beer: I like your Golden numbers posting!!!

charlie12

bbb_uk wrote:

To get out of your contract it all boils down to 4.31:-
I think they are referring to the Retail Price Index (RPI) [url=here. I think here is where you get the latest RPI figures.

The second row down (Retail Prices Index (all items)) reads to me that the annual change is 2.8 (i assume percent). Therefore my calculation is that if it's free and goes up by 10p it has gone up by more than 2.8% and therefore would mean you could escape your contract.

This does indeed seem to be the part - I also am no expert but an increase from zero to 10p can't be represented as a numbered percentage increase, but it is an increase nonetheless - perhaps an "infinite" increase? Which is more than 2.8%.

I don't think we'll be able to attempt to start cancelling contracts until 1/12, but when the time comes I will write a letter to their Bristol address with all the details. Somehow I don't think any Customer service rep will agree to end the contract without penalty, unless they have been briefed by management.

Anyone remember the T-Mobile loophole? From what I recall, they started charging for itemised billing and there was something in the contract about the RPI that allowed people to terminate accounts early with no penalty. I managed to terminate mine, I was too late to do it over the phone but I successfully did it after writing a letter to them. They initially allowed people to end contracts over the phone but then stopped after a day or so, despite the T&Cs stating that they could. It was a massive balls up.

pricefighter

Once you are notified officially of the increase on the next bill, would seem to be a good time to try and start to get out of the contact.Would it not? Or can anyone forsee any problems with this.