Bulk LPG - Cheapest suppliers / supply route?

bobmac62

Rather belatedly, the monthly pricing from Woldlink for November is advised at 31.95ppl +5% VAT, an increase of 1ppl on October pricing.

philtrick123

FYI-
I just moved into a house that has a bulk LPG for central heating and hob. Discovering the joys of LPG.
The previous owner used Flogas-
The 1st best offer they made me was 32p+VAT Yr1, Max 5p extra Yr2.
I rang around all the other suppliers and found Calor to be the lowest. So I signed with them.
Once Flogas received the transfer docs from Calor, they made me an 11th hour email offer of-
30p+VAT Yr1, Max 5p extra Yr2 + £150 Credit.
That worked out ~£100 cheaper over 2 years compared to Calor. So I've signed with Flogas


On the same day Flogas made me the offer, I received a template letter to the previous owner saying sorry but we need to increase the LPG to £48ppl!


LPG pricing is like the wild west!


Just trying to find out how much it costs to install a tank underground- any ideas anyone? Flogas are meant to be surveying soon.

Bethmiss

Afternoon All,

Please can somebody advise on present price for bulk LPG? We had been with same supplier (through various incarnations) for over 30 years. We were given a tank by friends moving house who finally got fed up trying to get Calor to take away their tank. When my parents retired from farming, the tank moved with them and supplied LPG for cooking and heating. The drivers did their checks when delivering gas, and there was never any problem. Then the time came when the tank needed thorough servicing and various things done for regulations. The bother and cost involved were such that my parents opted to rent a tank from the LPG supplier (North Eastern Farmers at that time). The old gas tank became the bulk diesel tank for the car until diesel prices made it unrealistic - it was then bought by one of our LPG tanker drivers!
North Eastern Farmers became MacGas, which became BP, which became Flogas disguised as MacGas, which became Flogas. We never had any problems with NEF or MacGas. BP was first bunch to start increasing prices mid-contract - I'm not even sure we had contracts with NEF and MacGas.

We had problems on and off with Flogas, and their customer service was even worse than BPs! Last November (2016) we switched to JGas. 28ppl fixed for a year; £48 per annum tank rental; and £700 worth of gas. The move from Flogas didn't go very well as their emails to JGas were being mis-directed into a Spam folder.

I've been working on assumption that our year is up at end of November 2017, and was planning to order gas tomorrow. Yesterday we received a letter from JGas, dated 23rd Nov, advising that "fixed price period is due to expire this month, since the end of March 2016 the world trade price of Oil & LPG has risen. Other factors, specifically the £/$ exchange rate have also had a major impact on all commodities. In accordance with your agreement, unfortunately your LPG price will increase by 3.00ppl effective as of 1st December 2017."

Hence the reason I'm wondering what other people are paying for their LPG! Thank you.

AdrianC

Bethmiss wrote: »

Last November (2016) we switched to JGas. 28ppl fixed for a year; £48 per annum tank rental; and £700 worth of gas. The move from Flogas didn't go very well as their emails to JGas were being mis-directed into a Spam folder.

I've been working on assumption that our year is up at end of November 2017, and was planning to order gas tomorrow. Yesterday we received a letter from JGas, dated 23rd Nov, advising that "fixed price period is due to expire this month, since the end of March 2016 the world trade price of Oil & LPG has risen. Other factors, specifically the £/$ exchange rate have also had a major impact on all commodities. In accordance with your agreement, unfortunately your LPG price will increase by 3.00ppl effective as of 1st December 2017."

I suspect that, while your fixed price period has expired, your contract has not - two-year contracts are standard.

31p/litre still isn't bad - far from it.

I dread to think how much gas you're getting through to get such a good price AND £700 of free gas...

Bethmiss

Humble apologies for "senior moment" with my mistake in saying we got £700 worth of free gas - it should have said 700 litres! That works out at pretty much the same as all the other suppliers from whom I got quotes, except that theirs was cash discount offer.

Sorry too, for delay in getting back to this.

Yes, our fixed price period has ended. Yes, I know we're still in the middle of a two year contract. What I don't know is the current price of LPG.

Our contract states "Year 2 any increase capped to a max 3ppl". So, we've been informed of a 3ppl increase effective from 1st December. I'm wondering how many other increases there will be between now and November 2018?!

AdrianC

Bethmiss wrote: »

Our contract states "Year 2 any increase capped to a max 3ppl". So, we've been informed of a 3ppl increase effective from 1st December. I'm wondering how many other increases there will be between now and November 2018?!

None, under that contract.

Bethmiss

That's how I read it first, but then realised it says "Year 2 any increase" etc. I think Flogas had something similar to get round increasing price more often. Time will tell. Thank you.

AdrianC

"If there's an increase, then..."

The_Hornet

Bethmiss wrote: »

That's how I read it first, but then realised it says "Year 2 any increase" etc. I think Flogas had something similar to get round increasing price more often. Time will tell. Thank you.

Yes, Flogas have a neat getout clause (see my earlier post 2966 above).

Whist they state there is a maximum increase of 3-5ppl in year 2, that excludes any increase in the wholesale price of LPG so you can get hit for the cap limit plus whatever they see as appropriate.

Mister_G

Continuing good news with my supplier, HBS.

Just arranged a fill of 1000litres and still 30ppl + VAT!:)