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    kelly_2009
    parking ticket from excel parking services limited
    • #1
    • 25th Nov 09, 10:23 PM
    parking ticket from excel parking services limited 25th Nov 09 at 10:23 PM
    Hi
    Today I received a parking ticket off a company called excel parking services limited.
    I was parked in a retail park in Stockport Manchester for approx 20minutes whilst i ran into a shop. It was the first time I had been to the retail park and I did not relaise that there was a pay and display system in place in the car park. There were No sign to tell you this when you drove into the car park and no visable signs around the area I was parked in. I only relaised it was a pay and display car park when I came out of the shop and seen the ticket on my car .I looked around to see where the signs and machines where to tell you this, and there was only 2 small signs high up and a post telling you and one machine that was on the otherside of the car park . The writing on the signs was that small that you could only read it if you where stood underneath it.
    The penalty charge that they have applied is £60 if you pay before 14 days then £100 if you don't.
    I know that I am in fault for parking there without a ticket but I thought that they had to clearly sign the car park telling you that it is a pay and display. :confused:
    Any adivse or information welcome please
    Many Thanks
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    • Sir Roger deLodger
    • By Sir Roger deLodger 25th Nov 09, 10:31 PM
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    Sir Roger deLodger
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    • 25th Nov 09, 10:31 PM
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    • 25th Nov 09, 10:31 PM
    Excel can be safely ignored. Its a scam. Have a good read on here about private parking companies and relax. If you are scared by the threatening letters you will receive then post back here for reassurance.
  • bromsgrovebarry
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    • 25th Nov 09, 10:48 PM
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    • 25th Nov 09, 10:48 PM
    Excel got a bloody nose in court recently. They will not be daft enough to try and enforce their nasty little scam again. Ignore the threats, they will not carry them through.
  • kelly_2009
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    • 25th Nov 09, 10:55 PM
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    • 25th Nov 09, 10:55 PM
    Thank you
    Should I just ignore them or send them a appeal letter???
  • bromsgrovebarry
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    • 25th Nov 09, 11:04 PM
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    • 25th Nov 09, 11:04 PM
    Ignore them or they will think that they are starting to scare you. Why waste a stamp on this pondlife?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 26th Nov 09, 12:17 AM
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    Coupon-mad
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    • 26th Nov 09, 12:17 AM
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    • 26th Nov 09, 12:17 AM
    Thank you
    Should I just ignore them or send them a appeal letter???
    Originally posted by kelly_2009


    If you did appeal they'd refuse it (PPCs always do, it would be like asking any 'business' to let you off paying them some money...not going to happen is it?!). Save your stamps for your Chrimbo cards.

    Ignore all their threatening letters, be especially ready for the different letter-headings (Solicitor, Debt Collections, etc). Ignore them too! All the time you ignore the whole thing the PPC doesn't know if their letters are even reaching a person, and in the end they'll forget you and move on to victims new.

    Many of us speak from experience of this scam, we haven't paid either. And nothing bad has happened, of course.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the breadcrumb trail, top of page: Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking & READ THE 'NEWBIES' FAQS THREAD.
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

  • Alx*27
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    • 27th Nov 09, 3:05 PM
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    • 27th Nov 09, 3:05 PM
    Ignore.

    There is no appeals process. You will just get a templated 'appeal rejected' letter back.
  • kelly_2009
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    • 27th Nov 09, 9:02 PM
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    • 27th Nov 09, 9:02 PM
    Thank you for your help.
    I will just ignore the ticket and see what happens.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 27th Nov 09, 10:48 PM
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    • 27th Nov 09, 10:48 PM
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    • 27th Nov 09, 10:48 PM
    Thank you for your help.
    I will just ignore the ticket and see what happens.
    Originally posted by kelly_2009

    Good, it will happen just as we said above.

    If you are not the registered keeper yourself, then do show the rk this thread so they know the official-looking letters that arrive in the coming months are trash, and are not regarding a real debt.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the breadcrumb trail, top of page: Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking & READ THE 'NEWBIES' FAQS THREAD.
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

  • kelly_2009
    I am the registered keeper will they just send letters or do they have the right to send someone to the door to try to collect the debit . Just so I know what to expect to happen from them.
    Thanks
    • trisontana
    • By trisontana 29th Nov 09, 7:42 AM
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    trisontana
    I am the registered keeper will they just send letters or do they have the right to send someone to the door to try to collect the debit . Just so I know what to expect to happen from them.
    Thanks
    Originally posted by kelly_2009
    They have no more right than you or I to go to somebody's house and demand money from them - they are just private citizens, not bailiffs. If they do turn up (very unlikely), then tell politely ask them to vacate your property, or you will call the police.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • BFG
    Welcome! *PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING*
    Please start a new thread for your case (if you post in the discussion threads your post will not be seen by many) and take a look at these two threads which will be of assistance:
    List of Terms/Acronyms/Abbreviations Used on this Board

    How to Upload & Post Images (PCN/NtO/other paperwork)

    Council Penalty Charge Notices (PCNs)
    (Read Martin's Article)

    1) SCAN the PCN (front and back) together with any other paperwork (200dpi should be fine). Pictures of the parking bay/signs/lines will also help.

    2) BLANK out personal details (i.e. PCN serial number, car registration number, any name/address details) using Paint or equivalent image editing program to remove appropriate details.

    3) UPLOAD to image hosting site and link from your thread - simply copy and paste the "direct link for layout" link which looks something like this: http://tinypic.com/xxxxxxxxx.jpg.
    For detailed help with scanning, erasing and uploading, please see this thread:
    How to Upload & Post Images (PCN/NtO/other paperwork)
    4) MENTION which council issued the PCN/NtO if you're unable to scan paperwork.



    Private Parking Companies (PPCs)
    (Read Martin's Article)

    1) PPC tickets (referred to by some as toilet paper ) are NOT fines or fixed penalties, they are invoices based on a presumed contract with the driver.

    2) When posting, please don't mention your vehicle make/model or exact location and most importantly do NOT say who was driving. PPC trolls do read these and other forums and may try to use this information against you. Do not post any info that may identify you. It isn't usually necessary to post the 'ticket' from a PPC.

    3) PPC charges have been shown to be generally unenforceable in Court, and they hardly ever issue proceedings, despite the threats in their intimidatory letters.

    4) Do NOT write to the PPC to 'appeal' the ticket - the appeals process is a complete sham, they just want your money and thus will reject the 'appeal'.

    5) If you don't take action on the ticket, the PPC will get the registered keeper's details from the DVLA, for a fee of £2.50. The registered keeper has no liability, since the presumed contract was formed with the driver. And, if you don't tell the PPC who was driving, they don't have a case.

    6) Ignore the ticket completely until they've bought your details from the DVLA (costs just £2.50) and write to the registered keeper. Opinions vary on whether to send a template letter in reply or simply ignore all correspondence, however, anecdotal evidence from this forum and Pepipoo indicates that with the 'ignoring everything' option they will give up after a few scary looking letters and false threats of bailiffs/CCJs/credit record entries.

    (thanks to bargepole for help in compiling the PPC section above)
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    P.S: Thanks to all who help out on the boards - for comments and feedback click here.
  • dwainlondon
    Excel Parking Charge Notice November 2009
    I received a parking fine from Excel on the 5th of December for parking in a controlled parking zone in London.The ticket they sent me shows my car in two small photos and both photos are very dark and you can just see my car.Ok you can see the reg but these photos they took via a video camera where taken at 1pm in the afternoon.But it looks like 1am due to the darkness.Also it states the area but not where i was fined and the area i live is a big place.I have read lots of comments on here and it looks like its to be ignored abd thats what am gona do.When i visit there website to see what areas or parking lots they cover its saying being updated looks like a con crap trick to me.Anyone else had anymore problems with Excel.
    • trisontana
    • By trisontana 8th Dec 09, 10:03 AM
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    trisontana
    For a start it's not a "fine". Secondly Excel won't now go near a court as they have lost a couple of cases. So just ignore any further correspondence from them.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • mmwatson
    excel parking ticket please help.
    hi my daughter parked at a retail park in keighley on the 5th Dec for the first time with her disabled client, she asked the attendant if it was okay to park there with the blue badge displayed and the attendant said yes no problems, so when she returned to the retail park on the 8th dec she parked in the space and displayed the blue badge again, a different attendant watched her get the wheeelchair out and go into a shop there when she returned 10mins later there was a parking ticket on her car from them excel parking. Stating that she had not displayed a ticket, she found the attendant and talked to them explaining about the last time and he said he could do not anything about it she would have to take it up with the office, but that she should have displayed her blue badge and paid for a ticket. at the machine. Anyway she came home and appealed to them by email explaining her case and then yesterday we received a letter off them stating that she still had to pay for the ticket. the attendant apperantly wrote a statement saying that our signs are positioned at the entrance and again at regular intervals in and around the car park all the aforementioned clearly state that for disabled motorists the normal tarrif applies please pay at the machine. We are thinking of paying it because she is wanting to go to uni to be a paramedic and so we do not want any repecussions from it. Please can you help.
  • bromsgrovebarry
    The charge has no legal validity. Please ignore it and all other threats from this disreputable company and the pondlife they employ to extort money. Please see all other threads relating to Excel.
    Still waiting for Parking Eye to send the court summons! Make my day!
    • Orford
    • By Orford 18th Dec 09, 4:43 PM
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    Orford
    We are thinking of paying it because she is wanting to go to uni to be a paramedic and so we do not want any repecussions from it. Please can you help.
    There will be no repercussions at all just ignore everything as advised in the other posts in this thread. As you have found out, their appeals procedure is non-existant. Don't be a mug and pay these scammers, ignore everything
    • trisontana
    • By trisontana 18th Dec 09, 4:44 PM
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    trisontana
    hi my daughter parked at a retail park in keighley on the 5th Dec for the first time with her disabled client, she asked the attendant if it was okay to park there with the blue badge displayed and the attendant said yes no problems, so when she returned to the retail park on the 8th dec she parked in the space and displayed the blue badge again, a different attendant watched her get the wheeelchair out and go into a shop there when she returned 10mins later there was a parking ticket on her car from them excel parking. Stating that she had not displayed a ticket, she found the attendant and talked to them explaining about the last time and he said he could do not anything about it she would have to take it up with the office, but that she should have displayed her blue badge and paid for a ticket. at the machine. Anyway she came home and appealed to them by email explaining her case and then yesterday we received a letter off them stating that she still had to pay for the ticket. the attendant apperantly wrote a statement saying that our signs are positioned at the entrance and again at regular intervals in and around the car park all the aforementioned clearly state that for disabled motorists the normal tarrif applies please pay at the machine. We are thinking of paying it because she is wanting to go to uni to be a paramedic and so we do not want any repecussions from it. Please can you help.
    Originally posted by mmwatson
    From now on just ignore any correspondence from them and do not contact them again. Eventually they will lose interest in you and your daughter. She has done nothing wrong, there will be no repercussions arising from this. If she wants any more reassurance on this matter just ask her to rad the other threads on this site.

    Just to add, blue badge have no legal basis on private car-parks. So no law has been broken.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • ckerrd
    "We are thinking of paying it"

    Stop thinking this immediately.
    Take the advice that others have given.Ignore Ignore Ignore absolutely everything that comes from this company. There is much info here and elsewhere. Your daughter's reputation will remain untarnished.
    We all evolve - get on with it
    • nomoneytoday
    • By nomoneytoday 18th Dec 09, 4:53 PM
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    nomoneytoday
    Would this advice still stand AFTER the OP has admitted to parking there, albeit with a blue badge?
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