Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Hi I have done Kleeneze in the past, i think commission is around 21%, you have to pay to join and buy brochures, they usually say you need at least 100 to start although you can start with 50. You can build a team and up your earnings with Kleeneze and theres no territory.
Betterware is not your own biz in the way Kleeneze is, you have a coordinator who delivers the books to you, no joining fee and no fee for books. You are given a set territory, drop the books when you are told and hand orders to the coordinator who then delivers them to you to deliver. No team building.

Both suck and post unwanted garbage at inflated prices in peoples homes

I did Kleeneze from Feb '09 - Feb '10 and eventually gave it up because I moved house and didn't want to have to start building up a new area again at the same time as trying to revise for my end of year exams at uni. I would recommend it to anybody who's serious about building a business, and would consider going back in the future.

I paid £134 to join and in my first 4 weeks earned £242.50 after expenses (not inc. the initial start-up cost). By the time I left, I worked between 12 - 15 hours a week and was earning between £800 and £900 (4 weekly) when I eventually quit. My expenses (national insurance, petrol, catalogues etc) came to about £100 a month on average, which still made my hourly rate more than £10 an hour.

You get 21% commission from anything you sell with Kleeneze but, unlike Betterware, there are also bonus' of up to an additional 24% available. (Note - the extra 24% is worked out using the actual price of the goods to kleeneze not the catalogue price if you know what I mean? Whereas the first 21% is 21% according to the catalogue price.)

If you sell more than £764 of goods in 4 weeks - very achievable (I did it in my first 4 weeks) then you get 10% bonus and usually some free catalogues and stuff as an incentive aswell.

There were some charges that my sponsor didn't tell me about, which you might be interested in knowing:

£7.50 a month for internet ordering (i'm quite sure you get 1 or 2 months free to start with). You can submit your orders by post/fax and there's no charge for this however delivery is more expensive as people who subscribe to internet ordering get free delivery if they order more than £250 worth of stuff (£150 during promos) and people who aren't subscribed pay for their deliveries.

£7.50 - Messaging service, completely optional but gives you a number you can give out to clients, possible new team members etc without having to give out your housephone number then you just collect your messages at your convenience. Also allows your upline to send you messages.

£15 per person for conference tickets (first conference free) - twice a year there's a conference at the NIA Birmingham and its completely optional but i've heard some sponsors can be quite pushy about attendance.

i dont buy from either as i find the prices are expensive for what they are and i have seen some of the exact same items in the catalogues in the £1 shop

BargainGalore wrote: »

I suppose its a choice between two rubbish companies, neither is wanted in most homes and both sell this dream that is a wonderful opportunity, when sadly it isnt the case

Oh and most of the goods can be bought at Wilkinsons, Home bargains or poundland for much less

Thats why i joined Wikaniko because its different, everyone are distributors including the people running it, all profits are used to benefit the distributors and customers . The more products we sell the more buying power is created and we can then keep prices low for the customers, co-operative marketing - a great idea. Eco-friendly prices tend to be higher than non eco-friendly products but with this idea, we join and buy our own items from ourselves at wholesale prices instead of Supermarkets etc and also spread the word locally and encourage people to do the same or buy products from us helping everyone become a bit greener easily and we earn an extra income as well. Wikaniko products not only benefit the Earth but are also everyday useage products in the main.