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Doggie poo - what do YOU do?

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  • YorkiePud_3
    YorkiePud_3 Posts: 718 Forumite
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    Btw ... my neighbour had one of those doggy bins sunk into his garden to chuck his dog's waste in but apparently you need to keep adding chemicals to it to help break it all down, so as soon as his grand daughter came onto the scene, they got rid of the bin for safety reasons.
  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    YorkiePud wrote: »
    Btw ... my neighbour had one of those doggy bins sunk into his garden to chuck his dog's waste in but apparently you need to keep adding chemicals to it to help break it all down, so as soon as his grand daughter came onto the scene, they got rid of the bin for safety reasons.

    Yeah, my mum and dad had one but they didn't anticipate they'd need to buy so much of the chemical for it and it just kind of fizzled out I think and now they are back to nappy sacks.
  • olias
    olias Posts: 3,588 Forumite
    mrcol1000 wrote: »
    I tried degradable flushable pooh bags for dogs and they are useless. If you put them in a back pocket the heat makes them gel together so you can't open it. After a month or two the bags gel together so you can't get them open. They are very slippy and impossible to tie.
    You can buy an attachement that fits to your outside waste pipe which lets you scoop and drop in.

    I always pick it up in a bag and put it in my wheelie bin. I don't seem to have a problem with the smell and my wheelie bin is emptied every 2 weeks but if you tie it securly in a proper pooh bag there is no problem.

    If you don't pick up your dog pooh anywhere rural or not (unless you own the land or have the land owners permission to leave it there) you are commiting a criminal offence. If your garden becomes full of pooh and the smell causes a nusiance your local council can order you to clean your garden and prosecute if you don't. If you fill your bin with dog pooh thats not in bags your binmen won't empty your rubbish.

    Sadly its a necessary evil to put your dogs pooh into bags. If you can scoop it into the toilet then great but otherwise its best just to bag it and put it in a secure bin.

    You are mistaken - I wish people would not post things on forums as truth when they either do not know, or have not researched properly.

    The original dogs (fouling of land) act 1996 stated the following:

    (2) This Act does not apply to land comprised in or running alongside a highway which comprises a carriageway unless the driving of motor vehicles on the carriageway is subject, otherwise than temporarily, to a speed limit of 40 miles per hour or less.
    (3) This Act does not apply to land of any of the following descriptions, namely—
    (a) land used for agriculture or for woodlands;
    (b) land which is predominantly marshland, moor or heath; and
    (c) common land to which the public are entitled or permitted to have access otherwise than by virtue of section 193(1) of the [1925 c. 20.] Law of Property Act 1925 (right of access to urban common land).

    This has been superceded by the clean neighbourhoods and environment act 2005 which states that the onus basically has been placed on local authorities to designate which areas they legislate over for the cleaning up of dog mess and the authorities. This generally follows the along the same line as the older act and may include:

    parks
    recreation grounds
    children's playgrounds
    sports grounds
    tourist beaches and promenades
    picnic sites
    pedestrianised areas
    pavements
    verges
    footpaths
    gutters and carriageways

    My particular authority for example only includes footpaths and public open spaces

    Olias
  • mrcol1000
    mrcol1000 Posts: 4,796 Forumite
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    olias wrote: »
    You are mistaken - I wish people would not post things on forums as truth when they either do not know, or have not researched properly.

    The original dogs (fouling of land) act 1996 stated the following:

    (2) This Act does not apply to land comprised in or running alongside a highway which comprises a carriageway unless the driving of motor vehicles on the carriageway is subject, otherwise than temporarily, to a speed limit of 40 miles per hour or less.
    (3) This Act does not apply to land of any of the following descriptions, namely—
    (a) land used for agriculture or for woodlands;
    (b) land which is predominantly marshland, moor or heath; and
    (c) common land to which the public are entitled or permitted to have access otherwise than by virtue of section 193(1) of the [1925 c. 20.] Law of Property Act 1925 (right of access to urban common land).

    This has been superceded by the clean neighbourhoods and environment act 2005 which states that the onus basically has been placed on local authorities to designate which areas they legislate over for the cleaning up of dog mess and the authorities. This generally follows the along the same line as the older act and may include:

    parks
    recreation grounds
    children's playgrounds
    sports grounds
    tourist beaches and promenades
    picnic sites
    pedestrianised areas
    pavements
    verges
    footpaths
    gutters and carriageways

    My particular authority for example only includes footpaths and public open spaces

    Olias


    Your partly correct but the exemptions apply to places where dogs are rarely walked anyway. i.e. next to a motorway and a field full of sheep. The 2005 act is more concerned with Dog Control Orders.
    Also dog pooh left by people walking dogs can be classed as litter and therefore your commiting an offence by leaving litter which also is not allowed to be left in an open space unless you get the land owners permission.
    I was just trying to make a point without having to write a long list of legal exepmptions and techinalites. If everyone who posted on here did that i think the whole forum would grind to a halt.
  • lfckerry
    lfckerry Posts: 122 Forumite
    I have 1 dog who is full of poo,always has at least 2 poos on a walk,so probably 3-4 poos a day,lovely!
  • olias
    olias Posts: 3,588 Forumite
    The point I was making (pedantically I admit:p), was that people are sometimes brainwashed into thinking poo needs to be picked up always.

    As a rural dweller, I walk my dogs in sheep fields, cow fields, woods and moorland. These areas are awash with animal poo of every sort and dog poo is just another source of organic matter that will be leached into the soil as part of natures cycle. Far better than being placed in a plastic bag and put into landfill!

    The only reason dog poo is picked up and there is legislation regarding it AFAIK, is either for health reasons (people coming into contact with it in public places and either getting it on their clothes/shoes/self and the associated risks of toxicara canis etc) or for aesthetic reasons (it doesn't look nice and it smells). Other than that it is an organic biodegradable and natural substance.

    By the way, the reason I have a bee in my bonnet about it, is that in my rural area, we quite often get 'urbanites:rolleyes:' who have been brainwashed into always picking up, who bag their dog mess on a walk in the countryside, then get sick of carrying it around and leave the bag hanging on a hedgerow, bush etc where due to the plastic bag it will stay there ad infenitum. I just think to myself !!!!!! use your common sense - of course, bag it and bin it in a public place/urban area etc, but out in the open countryside unless your dog does it on a footpath or similar then just leave it to degrade/wash away.

    Olias
  • mrcol1000
    mrcol1000 Posts: 4,796 Forumite
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    olias wrote: »
    By the way, the reason I have a bee in my bonnet about it, is that in my rural area, we quite often get 'urbanites:rolleyes:' who have been brainwashed into always picking up, who bag their dog mess on a walk in the countryside, then get sick of carrying it around and leave the bag hanging on a hedgerow, bush etc where due to the plastic bag it will stay there ad infenitum. I just think to myself !!!!!! use your common sense - of course, bag it and bin it in a public place/urban area etc, but out in the open countryside unless your dog does it on a footpath or similar then just leave it to degrade/wash away.

    Olias

    I agree with the above but the problem is that just because you don't think its a problem leaving the pooh there doesn't mean its neccessary okay. I think its far better to pick it up and then there is no problem with wether its a health risk or not, whether your going to get a fixed penalty fine through the post a week later or if your annoying the hell out of a landowner.
    The Urbanites (although its not just Urbanites rural dwellings do it too) leave the bags there and use the excuse that they are going to pick it up on the way back. Most of the time they don't, they change routes or someone else decides to add to the tree decoration. I personally think these people are worse than the ones who just leave it and should be removed from society. Also the fine for littering (leaving the bags of pooh) is a lot more than leaving just the pooh. So hopefully they will be caught one day
  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    olias wrote: »
    By the way, the reason I have a bee in my bonnet about it, is that in my rural area, we quite often get 'urbanites:rolleyes:' who have been brainwashed into always picking up, who bag their dog mess on a walk in the countryside, then get sick of carrying it around and leave the bag hanging on a hedgerow, bush etc where due to the plastic bag it will stay there ad infenitum. I just think to myself !!!!!! use your common sense - of course, bag it and bin it in a public place/urban area etc, but out in the open countryside unless your dog does it on a footpath or similar then just leave it to degrade/wash away.

    Olias

    I agree with this point! Makes me mad too as it's just a ridiculous thing to do!
  • littleoldme_2
    littleoldme_2 Posts: 379 Forumite
    my local council give out biodegradable bags for free , think there are about 30 in a pack and each person is allowed 2 packs per visit.
    worth a call to see if they do something like this
  • Errata
    Errata Posts: 38,230 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Dog eggs laid in the garden: Scoop into yesterday's newspaper and dispose of eggs in lavatory

    Dog eggs laid on walks: Pick up using newspaper, dispose of eggs in lavatory, dispose of newspaper in paper recycle bin
    .................:)....I'm smiling because I have no idea what's going on ...:)
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