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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.
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Nicola Sturgeon must be worried at how many seats really are at risk.
She's suggesting that the whole outcome of the General Election could rest on how many seats Scots give to the Conservatives.
http://news.sky.com/story/nicola-sturgeon-scotland-could-hold-pivotal-position-in-election-10901261"As the polls narrow across the rest of the UK, yes the Tories might still be on track to win this election, but whether or not they increase their majority could come down to the outcome in Scotland.
I see IDontUnderstandWhatALightIs is still trying to derail threads.
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A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »Ah, again with the infantile "must have the last word" stance?
Oh the irony.
I shall not be responding to this flaming spiral attemptA_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »Again.
See if you can grasp it this time?
Appearances can be deceptive.
Are you really determined to attempt yet another game of thread ping pong?
I will refrain thank you.
You may continue in your quest alone.
Again, attempting to ignite a flaming spiral.
I'm glad you shall refrain as your derailing to topic by yet again trying to play the man, not the ballA_Pict_In_A_Past_Life wrote: »
I see IDontUnderstandWhatALightIs is still trying to derail threads.
Please grow up Pict and debate the points
Can we please try to stick to the topic?:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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Yah_Boo_Sux wrote: »I saw Moray mentioned earlier. Well look at this.
https://stv.tv/news/politics/1390070-unionist-parties-working-against-snp-in-key-seats/
Yes, the Conservatives are targeting him but need a 18.59% swing from SNP to Conservative.
He achieved 49.5% of the vote share so would need all the other candidates to be paper representatives and for the electorate not to vote for any of the others.
Moray is 93rd in the Conservatives list of targeted seats in constituency size of margin.
The swing o meter is going to have to reach far across the divide to turn the seat blue if the polls are correct.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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He means that they are standing 'paper' candidates. One's that appear on the ballot paper, but aren't going to be out 'actively' campaigning. Means Labour leave the way clear for Tory targeted seats, and vice versa via a wee deal done behind the scenes.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Yes, the Conservatives are targeting him but need a 18.59% swing from SNP to Conservative.
He achieved 49.5% of the vote share so would need all the other candidates to be paper representatives and for the electorate not to vote for any of the others.
Moray is 93rd in the Conservatives list of targeted seats in constituency size of margin.
The swing o meter is going to have to reach far across the divide to turn the seat blue if the polls are correct.
STV seem to have caught wind of the wee deal. This coming out now won't do Scottish Labour any favours, since their UK counterparts will regard this as them actively helping the Tories gain seats against Corbyn ! How daft is that lol. Dugdale and her cronies are going to be out tout suite I reckon after this election to make way for Rowely and Findlay, both real Corbynites.
May's imploding campaign is badly affecting Davidson's too. Her ratings are plummeting under the pressure of having to actually justify Tory policies - something she's never had to do before. Her tv appearances have been a joy to watch over the last few weeks.It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?0 -
Shakethedisease wrote: »He means that they are standing 'paper' candidates. One's that appear on the ballot paper, but aren't going to be out 'actively' campaigning. Means Labour leave the way clear for Tory targeted seats, and vice versa via a wee deal done behind the scenes.
STV seem to have caught wind of the wee deal. This coming out now won't do Scottish Labour any favours, since their UK counterparts will regard this as them actively helping the Tories gain seats against Corbyn ! How daft is that lol. Dugdale and her cronies are going to be out tout suite I reckon after this election to make way for Rowely and Findlay, both real Corbynites.
May's imploding campaign is badly affecting Davidson's too. Her ratings are plummeting under the pressure of having to actually justify Tory policies - something she's never had to do before. Her tv appearances have been a joy to watch over the last few weeks.
I understood what they meant by paper candidates, in that they are not actively campaigning, yet still I bet, they receive votes on the night.
It's still a big swing to overturn AR:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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I know. But the Tories and Labour are throwing everything and the kitchen sink at him. Lib Dems according to some on the ground activists are also helping out delivering Tory leaflets and literature. Tories will be paying for lots of expensive social media targeted to Moray ads too. Davidson talked about these for her 2016 campaign and also going back to visit the same undecided voters time and time again with the same message. He's got a fight on his hands.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »I understood what they meant by paper candidates, in that they are not actively campaigning, yet still I bet, they receive votes on the night.
It's still a big swing to overturn AR
Saying that though he did really well in the Leaders debate and on QT tonight. I also thought it was a breath of fresh air having him and not Nicola in the Leaders Dabate. That way things were solely focused on SNP and what their Westminster policies are rather than devolved issues which Sturgeon continually has to waste extensive time on during her tv appearances even though they're not relevant to a UK GE.It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?0 -
Breakfast time in Dunfermerline this morn, looks a nice day.
Not so nice for a Scottish economy bumping along at the bottom there.
What's gone wrong folks?
Have the SNP been pulling the wrong levers?
Has some miscreant stolen their levers?0 -
IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Yes, the Conservatives are targeting him but need a 18.59% swing from SNP to Conservative.
He achieved 49.5% of the vote share so would need all the other candidates to be paper representatives and for the electorate not to vote for any of the others.
Moray is 93rd in the Conservatives list of targeted seats in constituency size of margin.
The swing o meter is going to have to reach far across the divide to turn the seat blue if the polls are correct.
Perhaps so but the possibility exists.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15323651.General_Election_2017__Top_SNP_figures_in_danger_of_defeat_to_Tory_gains/Constituencies such as Aberdeen South, Aberdeenshire West and Kincardine, Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk, as well as Dumfries and Galloway would be seized by the Tories.
Mr Robertson is defending a 9,065 majority in Moray, but the poll – conducted before the Manchester bomb attack and the recent Corbyn- inspired Labour surge – predicts the senior SNP figure will fail to be re-elected.
Several opinion polls have shown a surge in support for the Tories in Scotland, with them threatening to win a series of SNP-held
seats in rural Scotland, including that of Mr Robertson.0 -
When you've done attacking both myself and other posters, how about answering my question?IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Blah blah blah
Waffle waffle waffle
Bluster bluster blusterA_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »If as you say these alleged posts are not prior to recent events, proof of statements since the demise of Tory polls this week please?
*Note*
Incessant waffle and bluster are not asked for.
The following is:
Evidence (links) of posts this week corroborating "'I've read in these forums predictions that the Conservatives are predicting up to 15 seats in Scotland"?0 -
Yah_Boo_Sux wrote: »Perhaps so but the possibility exists.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15323651.General_Election_2017__Top_SNP_figures_in_danger_of_defeat_to_Tory_gains/
That poll is well outdated already.
There are a lot of Scottish voters who voted for Davidson regarding her stance on the union, now returning home to Labour. The same way a lot of EU leave voters are returning home to Labour since Corbyn is set on leaving anyway. May's campaign is imploding and Davidson and the Scottish Tories will inevitably take some of the fallout for that. The last last Scottish poll conducted showed Labour on the way up, and the Tories on the way down. Even stevens at 25% each.ut the poll – conducted before the Manchester bomb attack and the recent Corbyn- inspired Labour surge –
Polls though.. who'd believe any of those at the moment given how wild some of the predictions seem. None of us know what's going to happen.It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?0
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