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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.
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Shakethedisease wrote: »Oh you sweet summer child...
In the still unlikely event of a hung parliament the Tories if they had more seats would try and form a govt. Both Labour and the SNP would vote against.. then it's over to Labour to try and form a minority govt. The SNP are under no obligation to vote for them either... Labour would ( like Cameron did with Clegg ) have to sit down and work out a deal, Labour maybe to offer some kind of concession, or something the SNP really want, maybe a wee vote of come kind ? What could it be, not an AV referendum this time like Clegg got.. but a section 30 perhaps ? In order to form a working govt.
In any case I don't think Corbyn is particularly bothered or very interested in Scotland. He only seems to say something whenever Scottish Labour give him a poke in the ribs now and again. If it's a hung parliament and whatever the narratives about no deals, no talks etc is now.. he's going to have to talk to the SNP sooner or later otherwise the SNP will just abstain when he tries to form a govt. Or else just vote him in, then abstain on everything else until a section 30 or whatever is voted through.
There will be no labour / SNP coalition.
The SNP could support Labour in a minority government where policies are similar and with Labour endorsing more and more SNP policies, there are similarities.
The SNP have experience of minority governments and how to get cross party consensus:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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You really seem jelous of me moving away ... I feel sorry for you ... hope that bitterness doesn't choke you
But PS .. it doesn't change the facts
Don't feel sorry for me; I'm having a fab time!
You on the other hand seem to be living a life full of grudge and hate of your fellow (wo)man.
Attempting to condemn the poor and gullible to the grey skies of an iScotland so you can sun yourself on a Spanish costa.
And people like you would say the Tories are "nasty" :rotfl:0 -
Don't feel sorry for me; I'm having a fab time!
You on the other hand seem to be living a life full of grudge and hate of your fellow (wo)man.
Attempting to condemn the poor and gullible to the grey skies of an iScotland so you sun yourself on a Spanish costa.
And people like you would say the Tories are "nasty" :rotfl:
Who said I'm going to Spain ?
I ain't condemning anyone and I would love to see your proof that I am living a life of grudge ... your quite funny
Incidentally it still doesn't change facts
Keep yer bitter jelousy of me ... I've noticed it a few times now ... I'm sure that at least the bile welling up inside you will keep ye warm
And just to show no animosity to yourself I will ignore your nasty attempts from now on ... no need to feed trolls I spose0 -
IveSeenTheLight wrote: »There will be no labour / SNP coalition.
The SNP could support Labour in a minority government where policies are similar and with Labour endorsing more and more SNP policies, there are similarities.
The SNP have experience of minority governments and how to get cross party consensus
Hung parliament still very unlikely. But I agree, if it were to happen no formal coalition. Neither party wants it and the SNP certainly don't want to have anything to do with Labour's Brexit stance.
Labour would have to talk to the SNP though if the arithmetic dictated. And they're likely to either want their previously dismissed Scotland in Single market/far reaching devolution proposals taken seriously and taken to Brexit negotiations. Or a section 30.. and anyway Corbyn does like dialogue.It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?0 -
Shakethedisease wrote: »Oh you sweet summer child...
In the still unlikely event of a hung parliament the Tories if they had more seats would try and form a govt. Both Labour and the SNP would vote against.. then it's over to Labour to try and form a minority govt. The SNP are under no obligation to vote for them either... Labour would ( like Cameron did with Clegg ) have to sit down and work out a deal, Labour maybe to offer some kind of concession, or something the SNP really want, maybe a wee vote of come kind ? What could it be, not an AV referendum this time like Clegg got.. but a section 30 perhaps ? In order to form a working govt.
In any case I don't think Corbyn is particularly bothered or very interested in Scotland. He only seems to say something whenever Scottish Labour give him a poke in the ribs now and again. If it's a hung parliament and whatever the narratives about no deals, no talks etc is now.. he's going to have to talk to the SNP sooner or later otherwise the SNP will just abstain when he tries to form a govt. Or else just vote him in, then abstain on everything else until a section 30 or whatever is voted through.
Still living in fantasy land, I see. Pity you won't be able to test your theory as you'll wake up on Friday morning to a Tory government with an increased majority partly due to Scottish votes.0 -
Still living in fantasy land, I see. Pity you won't be able to test your theory as you'll wake up on Friday morning to a Tory government with an increased majority partly due to Scottish votes.
How many Scottish seats do you envisage the Conservative will win?
I doubt that will increase the majority by much if any.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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New polls point to SNP losing ten Westminster seats
"THE SNP is on course for a double-digit general election loss on Thursday, with two polls suggesting the party will lose 10 of the 56 seats it won in 2015.
Both Survation for the Sunday Post and Panelbase for the Sunday Times also suggested Labour support in Scotland, as in England, had risen sharply in recent weeks.
Roll on Thursday.
:T
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A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »"
New polls point to SNP losing ten Westminster seats
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http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15327773.New_polls_point_to_SNP_losing_ten_Westminster_seats/
Roll on Thursday.
:T
That's in alignment with what is a normal leading party in Scotland.
Problem is that it still points towards a hung parliament and the Conservatives have not made enough inroads or advantages over Labour.
Finally, as we all know, the only poll that matters is the one on voting day at the polling booth:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »
Finally, as we all know, the only poll that matters is the one on voting day at the polling booth
Where in all likelihood the popular vote will show that the Scots have no appetite for another referendum.
The SNP's response will be to drop the voting age to 12. :rotfl:
An d increase the already heavy indoctrination within our primary schools!0 -
Shaka_Zulu wrote: »Where in all likelihood the popular vote will show that the Scots have no appetite for another referendum.
The SNP's response will be to drop the voting age to 12. :rotfl:
Its clear, you believe that the GE is a binary vote on Independence, I don't.
Lets agree to disagree and move on.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
:wall:0
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