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60 Cyclists To Sue Edinburgh Council

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  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    Check this guy out who "thinks" it's ok to jump a red light because he's turning left. The guy looks old enough to know the law but clearly he dosn't. Priceless (This one's for Brat)

    http://youtu.be/V83XKkVYZ-I
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  • brat
    brat Posts: 2,533 Forumite
    Tilt wrote: »
    :beer: Of course. And the idiots amongst us sometimes gives the responsible road users of certain groups (bus drivers, taxi drivers, van drivers, motorcyclists, pedal cyclists...) a bad name.

    You do understand that developing an opinion of one person based on the behaviour of another is called prejudice.
    Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.
  • brat
    brat Posts: 2,533 Forumite
    Tilt wrote: »
    Check this guy out who "thinks" it's ok to jump a red light because he's turning left. The guy looks old enough to know the law but clearly he dosn't. Priceless (This one's for Brat)

    http://youtu.be/V83XKkVYZ-I

    I've said many times that one of the biggest problems law abiding cyclists face is the weak minded mentality possessed by some road users that seeks to blame and subordinate all cyclists because of the behaviour of the law breakers.

    So while the red light jumping cyclist might be the catalyst for the problems, the real problem for the cyclist lies with the motorist who justifies his anti-cyclist thoughts and deeds by the actions of the law breaker.
    Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.
  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    brat wrote: »
    I've said many times that one of the biggest problems law abiding cyclists face is the weak minded mentality possessed by some road users that seeks to blame and subordinate all cyclists because of the behaviour of the law breakers.

    So while the red light jumping cyclist might be the catalyst for the problems, the real problem for the cyclist lies with the motorist who justifies his anti-cyclist thoughts and deeds by the actions of the law breaker.

    Obviously that's aimed at me (and possibly a few others who have contributed to the thread). Well I can assure you that I agree with the sentiments of the cab driver at the end of the clip apart from his estimation of 2% of cyclists who give 98% a bad name. I would put it a bit higher than that.... maybe as much as 23% following my recent drive along Euston Road in London.
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  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    brat wrote: »
    You do understand that developing an opinion of one person based on the behaviour of another is called prejudice.

    Sorry missed this. Call it what you like but your are wrong. I am not prejudiced against all cyclists at all, just the stupid ones :D

    Footy time now so i'll leave you to it.
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  • brat
    brat Posts: 2,533 Forumite
    Tilt wrote: »
    brat wrote:
    So while the red light jumping cyclist might be the catalyst for the problems, the real problem for the cyclist lies with the motorist who justifies his anti-cyclist thoughts and deeds by the actions of the law breaker.
    Obviously that's aimed at me (and possibly a few others who have contributed to the thread). Well I can assure you that I agree with the sentiments of the cab driver at the end of the clip apart from his estimation of 2% of cyclists who give 98% a bad name. I would put it a bit higher than that.... maybe as much as 23% following my recent drive along Euston Road in London.

    If the cap fits tilt. But no, it's not actually directed at you individually. Many people such as you, Altarf and Johno are prejudiced against cyclists. That's OK, we can dismantle that on forums such as this quite easily. It's OK as long as no action is taken against cyclists as a consequence of that prejudice.
    Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.
  • brat
    brat Posts: 2,533 Forumite
    Tilt wrote: »
    Sorry missed this. Call it what you like but your are wrong. I am not prejudiced against all cyclists at all, just the stupid ones :D

    Footy time now so i'll leave you to it.

    And I've said before that being prejudiced is never a good way to be, it's not a good way to think, and it's certainly not something to be proud of.
    Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.
  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    brat wrote: »
    And I've said before that being prejudiced is never a good way to be, it's not a good way to think, and it's certainly not something to be proud of.

    So your'e not prejudiced against criminals or people who break the law then? You think they should be treated the same as law abiding people?
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  • brat
    brat Posts: 2,533 Forumite
    Tilt wrote: »
    So your'e not prejudiced against criminals or people who break the law then?

    Of course I'm not prejudiced against criminals. You need to learn what the word means.
    Tilt wrote: »
    You think they should be treated the same as law abiding people?
    Criminology is a vast complex subject.
    Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.
  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    brat wrote: »
    Of course I'm not prejudiced against criminals. You need to learn what the word means.

    Lol! You were the one who bought the word "prejudice" into the argument, not me.

    I readily admit that I am highly critical of irresponsible road users and reckless cyclists. I call it "critical", you called it "prejudice".
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