Competitions Discussion Thread Part 13

fortuna93 wrote: »

I personally would keep daily's running as usual on the SAME post on the main board with a link sent to PCL for the sticky - I don't see any problem with this method so why can't we use common sense?

Not every single competition is clear cut or as easy to fit into the definition. There are some that are complicated.

The ClassicFM South Africa one for example, that I have been posting: The poll results seem to imply that it is a regular but do not specify how it should be posted. When it's posted as separate threads it can get missed by people who are just using the regulars, and can also have the tendency to go to Game Over before it has closed which means people miss it. When it is posted as one thread it causes different problems. End date entry people who don't use the 'dailies list' thread will miss all but the last draw. Then those that do use that thread but who do their dailies between 11am and 12pm when the competition is closed will also miss out. Those who do their dailies at 9am on Thursday and 4pm on Friday will also miss out on a competition.

Both methods of posting present problems for people, so common sense can't always help.

crin wrote: »

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fortuna93 wrote: »

I agree with Crin and if I had realised this was what you meant I certainly wouldn't have voted that way and I suspect many others wouldn't either

I personally would keep daily's running as usual on the SAME post on the main board with a link sent to PCL for the sticky - I don't see any problem with this method so why can't we use common sense?

the trouble is IF dailies are to be run as one thread which is updated regularly then that needs to apply to ALL dailies including eg the currently runnign classic fm comps...both of which have been posted as individual comps everyday but merged by bgs when they have been spotted and pmed to them by someone.

see these threads as examples of the varying opinions...they have all caused confusion in the past week.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2992946

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3005378

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2998702

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2988350

what applies to one must be applied to all....so if the rule is that if prize varies, or url varies, or method of entry varies it doesnt count as a daily (or weekly or monthly) then NONE of them can count as a daily. i know hello is weekly so wouldnt need a new thread each day but again if its a new thread for one comp unless its the exact same prize, url and method of entry then that rule needs to be applied to all comps no matter the frequency of the changes.

which is exactly what was causing the issue before .....SOME comps were being posted and the thread updated regularly while OTHERS were being posted as a new comp every day (or week or month as appropriate) based on what the op wanted to do with them rather than on anything else. this is what led to things being posted on both boards and thus led to dupes which is why those of us who enter regular comps were so unhappy with how things worked.

the compromises suggested way back when was that dailies would be regular (in one thread) and weeklies and monthlies could go on main as new comps thus only the re-enter each week/month comps which did not change url or prize or answer would then be regs. however that was largely ignored in all the im right your wrong and lack of listening no matter how many time si and others repeated ourselves about it or tried to explain WHY it wasnt working on a post where you like and how you like depending whom is posting and what they want done with it.

had the issue not been forced, had glad* been given the time to compose a list of options and ideas form both sides that had been suggested by US (as in everyone on mse not just one group or the other group) then i suspect andrea would have been given a list of possibilities and a poll would have been clearly defined witht he choice of each of those possibilities and thus would then have been much better organised and had a much more satisfying result than what we ended up with because impatience meant it was done in a rush and as we can see andrea/the mse team do not understand the way the comps board works in the way we, the compers do, or the way the bgs do.

* and the other bgs as im sure she would have discussed with them and ensured they were on board with the list of options before sending, im only using glads name because she was the one who was involved in the discussion form the beginning and she did say frequently she was letting the other bgs know what was going on and what she was doing so i guess the others didnt feel the need to also jump in nor tell her if they disagreed with her listening to us all and trying to sort something.

ive been trying to come up with some way to keep everyone happy with dailies....posting them everyday does not work for anyone except those who enter comps by newly posted threads. if todays argos eg is posted thios morning as E:27/01 then people who enter by end next day, so today are entering E:28/01 miss it. if its posted with end date of E:28 to avoid that then people who enter by E27 today miss it as wont find it until tomorrow. its not soley comps moving to game over early that makes end date compers miss them. i cannot think of anyway other than an updated thread in dailies to highlight daily comps with different prizes/answers/draws everyday but i was repeatedly shot down when i tried repeatedly explaining that in the various discussion (as well as being called various nasty names and such like elsewhere).

amilucky is right when he says the two boards need to coexist together. thats what the original aim was. however this is not possible when people insists they dont have time to go anywhere other than main so want everything there (with the exception of things they proibanly dont want to enter anyway) and are not prepared to compromise or TRY something else.

all threads with end dates appear to have now been moved out of regs and on to main btw.

two times is also correct, posting and updating one thread does cause other issues...largely for people who "dont have time to check the stickies or the regular subforum". if one comp is not quite started when i come to it via the dailies then i keep it open in a different tab/window and check back in a couple of hours. sometimes that means i have a window with 10 tabs im refrshing every few hours until the comp comes up. others bookmark and check back that way.

this is my own opinion....but i really do not understand why people dont have time to check the stickies for new cops before or after doing all new ones on main board. however the loudest people were adamant everything had to go on main becuase they cant check regs and things should be linked in the stickies for those of us who use them. which works on the whole unless comps are posted individually every day. the description of regs always said it was for those comps that would get lost among the enter once only comps on main. which to me says the only comps that should have been going on main were those that were literally a one time entry and never repeated..which comps with a different prize and thus different end date each day are if they are posted separately but are not if they are posted to one thread and others which CAN be entered more frequently but entering only once still got you an entry to the prize draw didnt get lost quite so badly on main if they were linked in the daily sticky but the way i read things given the description was that they also were regulars. given the discussions and the varying ways of posting any im among the minority who thought that......whcih i knew anyway, whihc is why ALL my fussing before the current discussions was on posts which were not linked to in the appropriate threads that i then found the day before or the day they ended....which yes happend frequently because again people dont have time to use the stickies so didnt bother to notify or didnt want it to be moved form main to regs so didnt notify.

and yes, there were some people who were kind enough to add links to the daily thread when they posted on main, and more who did so when they realised the daily thread existed....so dont think im slating everyone for not doing so. i think maybe i better shut up now lol im not trying to be argumentative or anything, just trying to explain my thoughts.

Sorry i know its the wrong place to post but did'nt know where to, so here goes...am i going mad as i can't find the comp i'm looking for its was a purchase req comp with pomigranate juice...if someone could please help i'd be very greatful...tried looking but have not found anything.. Sorry again for wrong place..

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2996946 Can't have you going mad I'll ask a BG to move this to comps. discussion thread