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Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)
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Is anybody expecting the trade to be the same as it is now, you seem to be saying that we will not settle for anything less than they are now with out freedom of movement, I don't think anybody expects that to happen.
Isn't that the 'have the cake and eat it all'? Actually minus contribution too.
Trade is some form or another will continue, I doubt there will be sanctions but it will not be as favourable as today.
Beside the money what is in for the EU?
Why would an union offer a better proposition to a non-member than to existing members?
Why would the EU put a crack on it knowing that the UK wants to bring down the whole EU?*
Can you see countries like Frances, Italy, etc ratifying such deal?
As an EU national my priorities are with the EU and if that means cutting the UK lose and keep it at arm length let it be, I am willing to lose some money to keep the rest.
(This is the same approach for UK nationals, their priorities are with the UK so would want the opposite).
You can't expect the UK and the EU to reach a deal right away, it may need decades of distance before getting in the mood.
Beside, the USA, Canada, Australia, India, etc are all awaiting to strike these amazing FTA, the EU can watch.
*before you go down to the EU is bad, the EU is inflexible, the EU is a dictatorship, the EU is what members want it to be, the UK happens to think differently and can go.EU expat working in London0 -
The EU is not a nation, therefore it is impossible to be an EU national.0
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vivatifosi wrote: »Curiously enough, I was about to post a link to this article. It is quite nuanced...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/30/uk-tells-brussels-negotiators-their-brexit-bill-sums-do-not-add-up
Fascinating.
Looking forward to the press conference today.There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
The UK spent yesterday dismantling the EU's legal case over the so called Brexit bill.
http://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-talks-veer-close-to-collapse/
Barnier and co are incandescent. The story is also in the Torygraph but paywalled.
Proud to be honest. It's about time someone stood up to these unelected richards.Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.0 -
There you go again you still think the UK expects the same as now I don't think anybody really expects that. What on earth makes you think the UK wants the EU to fail it would not be in UKs interest. You are proving to me more blinkered than the hardened brexiters on here.always_sunny wrote: »Isn't that the 'have the cake and eat it all'? Actually minus contribution too.
Trade is some form or another will continue, I doubt there will be sanctions but it will not be as favourable as today.
Beside the money what is in for the EU?
Why would an union offer a better proposition to a non-member than to existing members?
Why would the EU put a crack on it knowing that the UK wants to bring down the whole EU?*
Can you see countries like Frances, Italy, etc ratifying such deal?
As an EU national my priorities are with the EU and if that means cutting the UK lose and keep it at arm length let it be, I am willing to lose some money to keep the rest.
(This is the same approach for UK nationals, their priorities are with the UK so would want the opposite).
You can't expect the UK and the EU to reach a deal right away, it may need decades of distance before getting in the mood.
Beside, the USA, Canada, Australia, India, etc are all awaiting to strike these amazing FTA, the EU can watch.
*before you go down to the EU is bad, the EU is inflexible, the EU is a dictatorship, the EU is what members want it to be, the UK happens to think differently and can go.0 -
The EU is not a nation, therefore it is impossible to be an EU national.
And that is the very nub of the matter. Is the EU not in fact a fedral system which is actually just the United States of Europe?
When did anyone vote for that?Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.0 -
Of course you do, because you flat-out refuse to accept the carp from Barnier, Verhofstadt, Tusk and (worst of all, maybe) Junckers.What sort of tone is set by.
"Go Whistle"
"A Poundland Bismarck"
I find those much more unpleasant and offensive than anything attributed to the EU side.
Like:
Junckers "Pfft" to May or his "riduculous" comment to his own parliament, and much more.
Tusk's "Dreamer" comment.
How about Barmier's suggestion that the UK may be more vulnerable to terrorism post-Brexit?
Particularly nice given recent history, that one.
There is much, much more - all of which I am sure you considered before your quoted post.
Oh and BTW, re: my family and friends in Europe - I don't know what petty-minded world is inhabited by the type of person who would imagine that family would fall out because of international politics but fortunately that does not apply to my own family and circle of friends.
Some are pro EU and some - yes, even within Germany and France - are anti-EU but that does not cause rifts between family or indeed friends. Perhaps because generally people are sensible enough to compromise and/or to appreciate the POV of others, unlike some within these forums it would appear.
The numbers opposed in some way to the EU within the EU27 BTW are well researched and documented and are significant in number; refusing to acknowledge they exist even on your own doorstep does not simply make them go away. 0 -
Oh dear, the doom-and-gloom mongers aren't having an easy time of it lately are they?
Consumer confidence here in the UK is up despite continuing attempts at "project fear" and mortgage approvals hit a 16-month high:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-consumersentiment-idUKKCN1BA316UK consumer confidence edges up in August - GfK
http://www.cityam.com/271090/mortgage-approvals-jump-16-month-high-while-consumer-creditMortgage approvals for house purchases jumped to a 16-month high in July, new figures from the Bank of England released today show.0
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