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  • pandaspot
    pandaspot Posts: 533 Forumite
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    Just had another success, this time with intelligent finance! However they said they were forwarding it to the debt recovery dept even tho there is nothing outstanding lol what's weird tho they said in the letter that if I don't want that to happen ring them.

    Never heard of a bank giving an option before. Tried to ring them, but not open today. Typical lol.

    Oh well ring them Monday to get my cheque quicker

    Congrats to the other winners today :)
  • MARKOS72
    MARKOS72 Posts: 248 Forumite
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    smitchy73 wrote: »
    I would go back to them and say that you don't think that they adhered to the FSA Handbook and quote the following.


    "3.3.5 G The
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]firm [/FONT]should not reject a complainant’s account of events solely on the basis

    that the complainant signed documentation relevant to the purchase of the
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]policy[/FONT]."

    "3.3.6 G The
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]firm [/FONT]should not reject a [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]complaint [/FONT]because the complainant failed to exercise

    the right to cancel the
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]policy[/FONT]."

    "3.3.11 G The
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]firm should consider in all situations whether it communicated information
    to the complainant in a way that was fair, clear and not misleading and with due

    regard to the complainant’s information needs."

    "3.6.2 E In the absence of evidence to the contrary, the
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]firm should presume that the
    complainant would not have bought the
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]payment protection contract [/FONT]he bought if

    the sale was substantially flawed, for example where the
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]firm[/FONT]
    (2) did not disclose to the complainant, in good time before the sale was
    concluded, and in a way that was fair, clear and not misleading, that the
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]
    policy
    was optional; or
    (3) made the sale without the complainant’s explicit agreement to purchase

    the
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]policy[/FONT]; or
    (4) did not disclose to the complainant, in good time before the sale was
    concluded, and in a way that was fair, clear and not misleading, the
    significant exclusions and limitations, i.e. those that would tend to affect
    the decisions of [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]customers generally to buy the [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]policy[/FONT]; or
    (6) did not take reasonable steps to ensure the complainant only bought a
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]policy for which he was eligible to claim benefits; or
    (8) did not disclose to the complainant, in good time before the sale was
    concluded, and in a way that was fair, clear and not misleading, the total
    (not just monthly) cost of the
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]policy separately from any other prices (or

    the basis for calculating it so that the complainant could verify it); or
    (9) recommended a single premium
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]payment protection contract without
    taking reasonable steps, where the
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]policy [/FONT]did not have a pro-rata refund,
    to establish whether there was a prospect that the complainant would

    repay or refinance the loan before the end of the term; or
    (12) in a sale of a single premium
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]payment protection contract, failed to
    disclose to the complainant, in good time before the sale was concluded,
    and in a way that was fair, clear and not misleading:
    (a) that the premium would be added to the amount provided under the
    credit agreement, that interest would be payable on the premium

    and the amount of that interest; or
    (c) (if applicable) that the complainant would not receive a pro-rata
    refund if the complainant were to repay or refinance the loan or
    otherwise cancel the single premium
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]policy after the cooling-off

    period."

    Have a read through these and see if they mean anything to your claim and if they do I'd email the ppi customer service team, and copy the CEO David Thorburn into it.

    The email addresses are
    [EMAIL="AQU.PPI@eu.nabgroup.com"]AQU.PPI@eu.nabgroup.com[/EMAIL] for the cust svcs team

    and

    [EMAIL="David.Thorburn@eu.nabgroup.com"]David.Thorburn@eu.nabgroup.com[/EMAIL] for the ceo

    You might find the reply from the customer services a normal one but the ceo's office should send you a seperate reply, I sent mine's last Friday, for reply from CS at 9.15am on Monday, and from manager at 8.30pm the same day, completely different replies as well.

    I done this last week and it was passed on to a senior manager at the ppi to deal with, got a call to say an offer was in the post.

    If there is anything else you can think about in your mis-sale add that too to the email, was the box already ticked? Was there supporting media(leaflets etc to tell you about exclusions etc).

    Clydesdale refused our complaint a couple of years ago and I waited till after the JR, discovered we hadn't used medical condition as a reason for the mis-sale which the OH has and seems to have been succesful.

    Good luck and keep us posted, would like to see more complaints upheld against Clydesdale/Yorkshire bank.:D
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    Sent mail this morning,cheers for the help.
    I understand there may be a time bar as I originally took the card out in 1996,is this correct?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
  • amersall
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    only_mee wrote: »
    Just use the template and send it off, sod using the claim handler!!
    Ditto :D:D i would rather have 30% in my pocket than to give it to someone for posting a letter for me :rotfl:
  • Scotty1.7
    Scotty1.7 Posts: 388 Forumite
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    Scotty1.7 wrote: »
    Quick updaet from me on mine

    Co-Op. Still with them, still awaiting any further info on the 16 week ruling (FSA have now confirmed it is correct)

    MBNA, No Response yet after then 28 day letter

    And a new one has reared its head- Welcome Finace. I didn't even realise it was on the loan they gave me so I've filled in there paperwork and I'll send it off to see what happens there.

    Further update for you all

    Co-Op Still on going but has till till the 20 of september.

    Welcome Finance no response yet to the letter going into them.

    MBNA- the magic word UPHELD. They advised they are upholding all claims and will advise the full redress and re payment asap (8 weeks is the quoted time but the chap n the phone did say they were going through them a little quicker.)

    Not sure what the amount back will be but its all good
  • smitchy73
    smitchy73 Posts: 2,558 Forumite
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    MARKOS72 wrote: »
    Sent mail this morning,cheers for the help.
    I understand there may be a time bar as I originally took the card out in 1996,is this correct?
    Hi Markos,
    No the time bar doesn't exist it is 6 years from when you become aware that you were mis-sold, sometimes the bank say 6 years from when the account ended, but again they are wrong, many many people have succesfully reclaimed from the 90's including DizzyDi, one of the many stalwarts of this forum.
    You're very welcome for the help, glad to assist, good luck and remember to keep us posted.
    Also if you don't hear anything back from the CEO email say by next Wednesday send them another one until they do respond, maybe give them another week or so then give them a last one with the chance to review before you take it to the FOS and complain to the FSA due to non response to your emails, but you should hear back from them Monday or Tuesday(seen as it is a bank holiday):D
    Thanks to all the competition posters.
  • PIP1966_2
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    LAURA77 wrote: »
    Hi

    I really dont believe that they will settle all claims by the 31st august. Phoned them yesterday and he told me that my ppi refund had been calculated on the 10th august but ive had no letter as yet, also said they would pay out within a couple of days of sending the agreement back!! It's just a waiting game im afraid :(:(:(

    Hi Laura
    I am really pleased for you especially as you didnt think Barclays would pay before 31st August. I think we need to find out if they HAVE to settle all claims (i.e. pay everyone) as they are unwilling to commit to actually saying that on the phone. I just wish they would hurry up and pay (I guess I am impatient) :-)
  • Dizzywithmoney
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    My son has just rung me - he couldnt be "bothered" to faff about putting a claim in against a loan he had with Black Horse, thought it was a total waste of time (I was named on the account so he could get the loan when he finished uni), he had added and changed this loan so many times (it was so confusing) he and he didnt have all the loan account numbers just the current one. He was told the last time he changed it that if he didnt take PPI out he wouldnt be able to increase it (he is a school teacher!). So he took it out and then he had a nightmare several months later trying to cancel the PPI. I nagged and nagged him to put a claim in, which he eventually did with my help, but it got rejected saying that he had had back the PPI from when he cancelled it. I worded another letter to them stating this wasnt what he was asking for (as though it was from him - us mum's have to do everything I think) and with his agreement and little additions to the letter we sent it off.

    Anyway he has just rung this morning as he has just received a reply from them not only have they reduced his loan by around £2500 he is also getting another £2500 paid direct into his bank acount. He is so pleased now that I nagged him!!!

    Me thinks he owes his mummy big time!!!
  • amersall
    amersall Posts: 17,005 Forumite
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    My son has just rung me - he couldnt be "bothered" to faff about putting a claim in against a loan he had with Black Horse, thought it was a total waste of time (I was named on the account so he could get the loan when he finished uni), he had added and changed this loan so many times (it was so confusing) he and he didnt have all the loan account numbers just the current one. He was told the last time he changed it that if he didnt take PPI out he wouldnt be able to increase it (he is a school teacher!). So he took it out and then he had a nightmare several months later trying to cancel the PPI. I nagged and nagged him to put a claim in, which he eventually did with my help, but it got rejected saying that he had had back the PPI from when he cancelled it. I worded another letter to them stating this wasnt what he was asking for (as though it was from him - us mum's have to do everything I think) and with his agreement and little additions to the letter we sent it off.

    Anyway he has just rung this morning as he has just received a reply from them not only have they reduced his loan by around £2500 he is also getting another £2500 paid direct into his bank acount. He is so pleased now that I nagged him!!!

    Me thinks he owes his mummy big time!!!
    :rotfl:He deffo owes mummy big time :D:D:D

    Good for you :beer: we mummys do have our uses dont we :cool:
    I got my son tax back last year that he overpaid,he wouldnt do it,just kept saying " its ok", he changed his tune when he got over £500 back :D now he listens to me :D:D
  • smitchy73
    smitchy73 Posts: 2,558 Forumite
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    My son has just rung me - he couldnt be "bothered" to faff about putting a claim in against a loan he had with Black Horse, thought it was a total waste of time (I was named on the account so he could get the loan when he finished uni), he had added and changed this loan so many times (it was so confusing) he and he didnt have all the loan account numbers just the current one. He was told the last time he changed it that if he didnt take PPI out he wouldnt be able to increase it (he is a school teacher!). So he took it out and then he had a nightmare several months later trying to cancel the PPI. I nagged and nagged him to put a claim in, which he eventually did with my help, but it got rejected saying that he had had back the PPI from when he cancelled it. I worded another letter to them stating this wasnt what he was asking for (as though it was from him - us mum's have to do everything I think) and with his agreement and little additions to the letter we sent it off.

    Anyway he has just rung this morning as he has just received a reply from them not only have they reduced his loan by around £2500 he is also getting another £2500 paid direct into his bank acount. He is so pleased now that I nagged him!!!

    Me thinks he owes his mummy big time!!!

    Well done dizzy, and to your son, but mostly to you, my OH was the same with me going on about claiming ppi on 2 x £10k loans with Clydesdale, just waiting on offer coming in the mail, they said on phone to her it was on the way last Tuesday, she's looking forward to see how much it'll be now!!:D
    Well done.
    Thanks to all the competition posters.
  • tifosi
    tifosi Posts: 485 Forumite
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    Hi! I was reclaiming for a protected loan from Barclays from a few years ago. I was in a stable job at the time with the council and so very minimal chance of redundancy, and if sick would have received six months full pay six months half pay. However I was made to feel the PPI was compulsory and that I may not have got the loan if I hadn't accepted it. I now know this was misleading.

    I was contacted through a cold call a few months ago by The XXXX and claiming is not something that would probably have ever occurred to me, I don't usually talk to cold callers either but was in a particularly good mood that day and took the call. I decided to go along with making a claim, thinking nothing would ever come of it but what did I have to lose?
    The judicial review came and went and I waited patiently, until eventually the post came today and Barclays have deposited just over £5,000 into my account!

    Now my fiance is definitely going to make a claim of his own, probably using Martin's template forms but possibly again using a claims handler. The XXXXXX will be taking 30% of my refund but I don't begrudge them as without their call I may never have made the claim.

    My advice - go for it - what have you got to lose? If the thought of getting it right is daunting, use a claims handler.

    Carly :j



    Hmmm

    hate to be so cynical, but first post?

    I smell a rat

    :cool:
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