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Fridge3 wrote: »

They're doing a fine job but I was here a long time before the Atos Rep.:D

FTW, #918

"New Labour brought them in, but the ConDoms aren't changing it."

Its true they were first to award a contract to ATOS. Frank Field fought hard to push his party in the current direction, the back bencher's, front bencher's and the then PM were having none of the perceived draconian treatment of the nations ill and disabled. Frank Field had his none knocked out of joint and eventually 'crossed over' and carry on his crusade as tsar for the current government .. .. and that is why .. .. the then 3 term 97 -07 socialist party and its back bencher's was not prepared even if they believed Field, to treat the nations disabled that way. The truth from Thatcher era to the current incumbents however is as equitable stated, that the socialist years threatened but ever acted against the old, infirm and disabled.

I watched a political prog recently with the usual CONdems bucolic take on all the lazy sods on DLA, and how it was their case that it was all the Labour party's doing, and how the year on year rise was in relentless ! This 'strivers' against 'skivers' bilge and the introduction of PIP will cut the welfare budget by 20%, that's a half million [1 out of every 4] disabled and 10,000 carers will be affected and have elements of allowances cut in the 2015/16 timeframe.

The population and even political researchers are oblivious to the 'revisionist' strategists in the CONdem dark~arts department. Are we all prepared to agree that (1) Life did not exist before the last Labour administration, and the current state of events is nothing to do with the Conservative governance ?, and (2) that the rise in DLA is nothing to do with population increases and the inarguable truth that people get older including those awarded DLA on the 'indefinite rule' invented by the then Conservative administration in 1992.

Lets have a look shall we at the truth of these claims:



- did the figure go up or down when Labour were in power ?
- did the figure go up or down when the Conservatives were in power ?
- which of the two parties created the 'welfare wilderness parking zone' in the first place ?
- which of the two parties is forcing the chronically ill and disabled into work and even URL="http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4075287&highlight=continued"]#3[/URL death ?
- which of the two parties is for the first time in our history removing the right to legal representation ?

Lets have a look at the justice of what's being claimed




Employment was at its lowest whilst unemployment was at its highest in the early nineties - that's when the true blue Tory IB storage party really started and was at its highest. Remember it was the Tories that introduced IB with their 'all work test' test ! Wage slave - blue collar - or management your out on your arras. What's a man going to do ?. 2 kids and a mortgaged 2 up & 2 down they need shoes on their feet and food in their bellies, no where to turn, and regardless of Tebbit's bike no work wherever you look, and no wage. And the 'job shop' offer you an IB 'get~out~of~jail~card~free after 52 weeks - who's gonna blame him. I wouldn't !

Quietly sliding people into IB [*pendulum economics] started and was highest [*a price worth paying] when Maggie decided the best way to simultaneously both defeat the unions and the rampant inflation at the time was to create a model that created unemployment rather than jobs. 2,000 unemployed applicants for every job stopped wage drift in its tracks and led to an immediate reduction in the inflation rate, which during her tenure was astronmic somewhere 18 - 9.5%. Labour later re-invented the 'all work test' and renamed it PCA [Personal Capability Assessment]. Its 'freaky' and unnerving, but hardly surprising to note that ATOS carried out most of the tests that sentenced people to be 'barracked' on IB for the then Tories, but then they like any good commodity dealer will wield the 'helve' for profit for either paymaster, just like any good 'arms dealer' they'll sell to either sides, and both if possible.

IDS and his cronies are lying to you, we the people of this island now believe that any crip [of any designation] is a fiddler. They are becoming age-phobic - disabled-phobic - this tribe at war, is changing the nations conscious, and unconscious psyche. The old, frail, disabled, are engineered into the despised section of brother and mother and child that should be disposed of - wake UP !

NOTE : The * are well worn phrases associated and used throughout the Maggie reign on UK news channels and papers, fed into the machine by both central office, and the cabinet office in the form of Bernard Ingham. That was then - and now is now - any change ? - naw .. .. don't kid yourself its in their very bones of their ideology.



The point of the post was that this government is rewriting history just like parts of the German political elite would like to rewrite their history on the treatment of the old disabled, gypsies and Jews. The National Socialist German Workers' party did this with the Völkischer Beobachter a daily paper just as our current government do this through the REDTOPS, the German population believed the Völkischer and the British people believe the Sun. The fraud rate is miniscule, and the rate of successful appeals proves that there were few of what REDTOP chavs [Fridge3] and their bullingdon political bedfellows call 'lead-swingers' in receipt of disability benefits.




And at the indecent scurrying haste to sufficiently destroy the disabled the right to representation before PIP & UC come in. The LASPO amendments drifted in and out of the legislature in deafening silence, other than a few well placed 'tweets' and viciously fallacious media articles firing up hatred against any person 'unfortunate' enough to have to rely upon the welfare state for much needed support. Clarke has been busy de-funding advice centres in general and specialist advice centres in particular since last year, this to include CAB. By April of this year the recent legal aid reforms take full effect and all but abolish specialist help. The caseload in general and the IB transitions have 'lumped' and extra 50% of work on advice centres. Clarke anticipated this coming, and being the benevolent kind of politician he is he made sure that the first to close would be those with specialist capable of at least 1T representation.

Represented specialist 1T's are still running at around 80%, while the non represented show an average national rate of 40%. You can see therefore why the specialist centres were planned to [STRIKE]be de-funded[/STRIKE] go first. The 40% rate itself would I imagine rise up the graph if specialist's and their funding was abundant enough to handle those extra pre-1T appeals, but hey it costs government a combined £450 plus for each appeal hearing, these kind of advice centre closures are one of the ways the state makes sure it does not pay its people what they are entitled to.

Cabinet office update 5th Feb - £65 million for free advice services to help the vulnerable

- I don't need a Microsoft Windows Abacus to calculate that 25% of £65 million is not .... er ... £65 million, the amount that's allowed to be spent on the delivery [the giving of] advice is in fact 25% of £65 million, and then only if it's not currently funded from another source.

If the ATOS LiMA system was allowed by the DWP to work to criteria designed to 'find the truth' then the appeals costed at around £50 mi££ion a year to the public purse would not happen. Its worthy of note that the now majority Labour controlled authority was in the control of the Conservatives last summer when both the cuts to the funding of the centre and the subsequent closure was enacted.

- we can criticise, and ;
- we can whine / blog / talk forever, or ;
- we can tell them to .. .. go away, but ;
- unless literal xxxxx is involved, we have no chance, because ;
- resisting the state tends to require xxxx, lots and lots of them

Wanna talk facts Fridge3 ?