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sicknotethefirst

Is this Fridge3 a self appointed Atos rep? in which case he should be in the same category as the rep which is a step below the gutter in my opinion.

Richie-from-the-Boro

ATOS and every one of their apparatchiks are certainly to blameURL="https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4070035"]see#13[/URL. Good medically trained staff are fully employed and don't or won't work for ATOS, the less good are unemployed or underemployed, they and the less moral are likely to work for ATOS

ATOS is employed to do an axe job for GOV-UK via the DWP with a product called LiMA that is designed to save Mi££ions for the treasury and is nothing whatsoever to do with medical conditions or disabilities. Its a treasury driven chain saw designed to cut huge swathes of costs from the Welfare budget. ATOS are not there to get it right they're there to get it done for the Mi££ions they are paid, a private company driven entirely by the profit motive has no morals whatsoever and in health practitioner terms their apparatchiks have no URL="https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3940545"]see #11[/URL Hippocratic oath or even Duties of a doctor left within their moral compass.

- """ATOS is not the sole, or even major problem in the system""" - true, but they took the 20 pieces of silver and wield the axe

- """Too many people are blaming ATOS for things they have no control over whatsoever""" - true, but they took the 20 pieces of silver and wield the axe

- """its not ATOS's fault, but that of the government who passed the regulations"" - true, but they took the 20 pieces of silver and wield the axe

-"""ATOS have been commissioned solely to tick the boxes the government has supplied"""- true, but they took the 20 pieces of silver and wield the axe

-"""If ATOS was sacked, and another company brought in to do the same thing"""- true, but they took the 20 pieces of silver and wield the axe

ATOS the company came and .. .. one day they will went .. .. history will always remember that the CONdems both did this to their citizens, and that ATOS wielded the axe. I hope every child of this nation in future years knows and remembers that was their parent / auntie / uncle / sister / brother whoever that took dirty money for doing this to the ill,vulnerable and disabled - they [both ATOS the apparatchiks of Government, and Government itself] are to blame !

# apparatchiks / a blindly devoted official, follower, or member of an organization or corporation.
# blame / To hold responsible / To find fault with / To place responsibility for (something)
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Hippocratic - Update

Dear General Medical Council,

As of the 1st January 2013, please can you advise the following;

1) How many doctors are employed by ATOS healthcare?

2) How many doctors currently employed by ATOS healthcare are also
simultaneously undertaking work, paid or otherwise, for the
National Health Service?

3) How many doctors currently employed by ATOS healthcare have
taken the Hippocratic Oath?

4) How many doctors are employed by National Health Service?

5) How many doctors currently employed by the National Health
Service have taken the Hippocratic Oath?

Yours faithfully,

Mr H Crates
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NOTE : When Mr H Crates responds - I'll update this thread

FTW

Fridge3 wrote: »

That's what the appeals process (which represent less than 5% of total claims) is for, to cover claims that may be wrong or where new information is introduced by the claimant.

Or to counter unfair treatment or spurious 'reports' - both of which seem to happen far too much, and some of which have fatal consequences.

beanielou

mazza111 wrote: »

You still don't get it. Why should any company be allowed to get away with telling lies about people. This is not about process is it's about downright LIES. If there was less lying there would be less people having to go to tribunal.

ATOS nor anyone else should be allowed to lie in their assessments. I'm all for assessments, not as they stand now, not this sham they call the WCA and not ATOS lying about people.

Agree 100%.

FTW

schrodie wrote: »

Out goes the Atos Rep in comes Fridge3!!!
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Not very subtle Fridge!:D

I wouldn't go expecting subtlety from him - or truth, for that matter.

Must have been an early finish for him today, or something.

schrodie wrote: »

Incidentally just to correct you (again).

Not exactly a first.

schrodie wrote: »

If you at Atos did your jobs properely in the first place with respect to carrying out sub-standard WCAs and carrying out Pre-Board checks the number of appeals wouldn't be as high.

Or the number of fatalities linked to them.

sicknotethefirst

Fridge3 wrote: »

That's what the appeals process (which represent less than 5% of total claims) is for, to cover claims that may be wrong or where new information is introduced by the claimant.

Thirty pieces of silver comes to mind with this member :mad:

FTW

sicknotethefirst wrote: »

Is this Fridge3 a self appointed Atos rep?

Yep - you may have noticed he astro-turfs for them.

And not particularly well, at that.

sicknotethefirst wrote: »

in which case he should be in the same category as the rep which is a step below the gutter in my opinion.

At first, I had him down as a troll, but he posts far too frequently for that - especially whenever anyone posts something even vaguely critical of the company.

FTW

sicknotethefirst wrote: »

Thirty pieces of silver comes to mind with this member :mad:

Oh, he's a 'member', all right.

Read some of his other posts - and I wouldn't recommend that - and you'll very quickly get the gist.

sicknotethefirst

I won't bother because he fits into the LIAR CLAN

FTW

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

ATOS and every one of their apparatchiks are certainly to blameURL="https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4070035"]see#13[/URL. Good medically trained staff are fully employed and don't or won't work for ATOS, the less good are unemployed or underemployed, they and the less moral are likely to work for ATOS)

Good medically trained staff have principles, competence, and above all else, a conscience.

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

ATOS is employed to do an axe job for GOV-UK via the DWP with a product called LiMA that is designed to save Mi££ions for the treasury and is nothing whatsoever to do with medical conditions or disabilities. Its a treasury driven chain saw designed to cut huge swathes of costs from the Welfare budget. ATOS are not there to get it right they're there to get it done for the Mi££ions they are paid, a private company driven entirely by the profit motive has no morals whatsoever and in health practitioner terms their apparatchiks have no URL="https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3940545"]see #11[/URL Hippocratic oath or even Duties of a doctor left within their moral compass.

Atoss staff, as well as the Official Secrets Act, also have to take the 'Hypocritical Oath'.

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

- """ATOS is not the sole, or even major problem in the system""" - true, but they took the 20 pieces of silver and wield the axe

- """Too many people are blaming ATOS for things they have no control over whatsoever""" - true, but they took the 20 pieces of silver and wield the axe

- """its not ATOS's fault, but that of the government who passed the regulations"" - true, but they took the 20 pieces of silver and wield the axe

-"""ATOS have been commissioned solely to tick the boxes the government has supplied"""- true, but they took the 20 pieces of silver and wield the axe

-"""If ATOS was sacked, and another company brought in to do the same thing"""- true, but they took the 20 pieces of silver and wield the axe

When 'clients' want to 'boot out' sick people and use medicine as a smoke-screen to do it, that's where Atoss come in.

They were (and still are) notorious in Occupational Health even before they got the DWP contract.

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

ATOS the company came and .. .. one day they will went .. .. history will always remember that the CONdems both did this to their citizens, and that ATOS wielded the axe. I hope every child of this nation in future years knows and remembers that was their parent / auntie / uncle / sister / brother whoever that took dirty money for doing this to the ill,vulnerable and disabled - they [both ATOS the apparatchiks of Government, and Government itself] are to blame !

# apparatchiks / a blindly devoted official, follower, or member of an organization or corporation.
# blame / To hold responsible / To find fault with / To place responsibility for (something)

New Labour brought them in, but the ConDoms aren't changing it.

Which is why IBS is a doubly-sickening figure - he's trying to take the dubious 'credit' for it, just because even he knows he's achieved absolutely nothing in national politics.

It's his last chance to 'prove himself', but most can see through him for what he is - a worthless, sausage-factory, corporate-bought sham, just like every other MP.