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Has anyone seen this site? and indeed this thread!

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=12762

Just wondered what peoples views are on this?
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  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,075 Forumite
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    I can't take it seriously.

    I'm sure they'd be more successful if they weren't so angry all the time. I'd far rather read and learn from meanmachine's considered posts on here than the posts on HPC which mainly seem to consist of swearing, patting each other on the back, accusing any article that doesn't agree with them of being spin and linking into threads on this site, purely to the mickey out of people asking for help. I don't get it; answer the question with a reasoned argument and do some good by persuading them not to BTL or whatever instead of goading people to come and posts insults.

    I'm sure meanmachine has managed to put more people reading this board off buying. If that's his crusade, then good on him as he does a good job fanning the flames. This is a well balanced board with all sorts of opinions and I'll stick to this one thanks.

    I'll look out for the link on HPC back to my comments on this thread shall I? :rolleyes:
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  • dfarry
    dfarry Posts: 940 Forumite
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    Very interesting... we have all probably seen boom and bust happen before and chances are it will happen again....but when? I wish I had a crystal ball..

    I agree to an extent with the premise that FTB's fuel the fire by buying high (then locked into the equity trap) and I feel extremely sorry for anyone coming into the housing market.... Even second and third time buyers feel the pinch... though they may have equity they will get hit by increased fees for sales/purchase plus most will go over the 3% stamp duty threshold.

    The UK house market is stupidly expensive and I don't like that at all but who can predict where the market will go next? Like someone who posted on that said last.... FTB's reading it a year ago may have held off and may well now be many thousands of pounds worse off by finally deciding to buy now.
  • linnyp
    linnyp Posts: 156 Forumite
    It's hard to take them seriously when you do a bit of reading and find that most of them are very bitter and twisted towards current homeowners - sounding just like they're sorry for themselves that they missed out on buying when prices were lower.
    It's one thing having constructive discussion about a predicted crash but quite another rubbing their hands in glee and taking great pleasure in wishing financial harm on others.
  • rvts
    rvts Posts: 21 Forumite
    Yes i agree that prices are high at the moment, but when i bought my first house (June last year) I was 20 and my girlfriend was 19. It was the earliest opportunity that we could afford to buy a house. Its just frustrating that we arn't 5 years older and hadn't bought one in 2000 and made alot more money.

    But theres no point moaning about something you can't change so we bought one anyway and in November due to a better paid job we sold it and bought another one!

    We have a very large morgage now but it stops me wasting money on other things.
  • happenstance
    happenstance Posts: 365 Forumite
    They make a few good points but don’t really help their case with all the bitterness.

    Although I’m getting frustrated with the amount of people I know getting interest only mortgages on low caped rates that they can't even afford. They have the intention to 'sell in a few years and make a fortune.' Naive.
  • njwd
    njwd Posts: 19 Forumite
    rvts wrote:
    Yes i agree that prices are high at the moment, but when i bought my first house (June last year) I was 20 and my girlfriend was 19. It was the earliest opportunity that we could afford to buy a house. Its just frustrating that we arn't 5 years older and hadn't bought one in 2000 and made alot more money.

    But theres no point moaning about something you can't change so we bought one anyway and in November due to a better paid job we sold it and bought another one!

    We have a very large morgage now but it stops me wasting money on other things.

    A couple of questions. You may find them too personal, so don't feel obliged to answer:

    1) Do you have an Interest Only Mortgage
    2) Would you be in trouble if Interest Rates were 5%, 6% or 7% (rather than the current 4.5%)
  • movieman
    movieman Posts: 383 Forumite
    Although I’m getting frustrated with the amount of people I know getting interest only mortgages on low caped rates that they can't even afford. They have the intention to 'sell in a few years and make a fortune.' Naive.

    Yet you don't believe we're in a housing bubble?

    As I understand it British house prices today are higher relative to incomes than they've ever been in the last fifty years, and that at a time of historically low interest rates. I don't see how prices can _not_ crash when global interest rates are increasing and most new buyers are only buying because they expect prices to keep rising... a couple of rate rises will make mortgages unaffordable for many people, forcing them to sell, and a drop in prices will lead to a cascading crash as no-one wants to buy a depreciating asset.
  • rvts
    rvts Posts: 21 Forumite
    In answer to the questions

    1) We have repayment
    2) We have fixed interest rate for 2 years, but yes if they did rise alot higher than we would be probably struggling but hopefully when the 2 year fixed is over we should both be on higher wages
  • Daddy_Bear_2
    Daddy_Bear_2 Posts: 30 Forumite
    rvts wrote:
    Has anyone seen this site? and indeed this thread!

    http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=12762

    Just wondered what peoples views are on this?
    As I was explaining to my uncle last night - it's all about unemployment, inflation and interest rates. Unemployment is rising month on month (deteriorating the ability of people to buy houses), rises in interest rates are now pencilled in but how much they will rise depends on what happens to inflation. The US is having problems controlling inflation and interest rates there have gone from 1% - 5% in under 18 months. It is possible, in fact I'd say likely that interest rates will have to rise in the UK to combat rising inflation and in 2 years time if interest rates are even 5% when lots of people are coming off their very cheap 2-3 year fixed rate mortgages then that really will the crunch point for the UK housing market.

    IMO interest rates in 2 years time are likely to be 6-7% but predicting inflation is not an exact science, even the Bank of England isn't very good at it!
  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,075 Forumite
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    Oh Well. I tried. Someone doesn't seem to like me over there. :cry:

    Guess you guys will have to continue puting up with me!
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