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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder
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Remain was 100% clear.
Do you think that all leavers want a Norway style deal? It satisfies the vague referendum question but I'm not sure there's any majority for it.0 -
I thought all you Remainers were posting here to try and persuade others to change their mind?
Now you complain about PM May trying to persuade people like Mogg to change their mind.
Mogg has now said that he will vote with the DUP, so he has now changed his mind that a 'smart border' is not posible and an agree around customs and immigration control is needed with the EU.
Many have understood this for months/years, was he telling porkies or is he a little but thick?0 -
No ambush. No sidetracking. Just a couple of simple questions. I know what "my side" wanted. What about yours?
For the hard of thinking:LEAVE
When you leave home you leave home!
You don't say you will only go if you can still get fed at home, bring your washing home, sleep at home, get handouts from home.
You stand on your own 2 feet and face the challenges.
Tell me about the hardest possible and the easiest possible brexit and the differences between the two and I will say one is Brexit, it is not hard or soft it is what it is, the other is a fudge that is actually remain with some of our options reduced.
It wasn't qualified because it did not need to be it was simple: we do not need to assess if the electorate wanted something different like sparkles on their ice cream.
The nation saidLEAVE
It is this deliberate fudging of the outcome that has lead to 3 years of hot air, waste and leads to us being the laughing stock of Europe.
Our politicians should be truly ashamed, all of them.:(0 -
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What the nation is experiencing is a long painful lesson in what happens when you vote in Tory governments.
Millennials who grew up under Labour must be utterly bewildered by the other generations who have inflicted years of impoverishment, chaos, conflict and rank incompetence on their own country in two general elections.
To be honest I could just about stomach the Tories if they were just useless, nepotistic, shallow, unprincipled and corrupt. It's the meanness that I can't stand and Brexit has brought out the worst in them.
Xenophobic, spiteful, backstabbing schemers. General election please.0 -
What the nation is experiencing is a long painful lesson in what happens when you vote in Tory governments.
Millennials who grew up under Labour must be utterly bewildered by the other generations who have inflicted years of impoverishment, chaos, conflict and rank incompetence on their own country in two general elections.
To be honest I could just about stomach the Tories if they were just useless, nepotistic, shallow, unprincipled and corrupt. It's the meanness that I can't stand and Brexit has brought out the worst in them.
Xenophobic, spiteful, backstabbing schemers. General election please.
So how does that progress the discussion for those Labour, and other voters, that decided Brexit was what they wanted?
Considered by some to be approximately 60% on a constituency basis.
One might suggest therefore that 60% of Labour MPs should also support Brexit but we know the reality of party politics vice what the electorate wanted.
BTW, in case you hadn't noticed the Conservatives do not have a majority therefore steamrolling anything through Parliament is just not possible and your assertion is again just noise.
GE and whom to lead the country? Asked this already but we constantly drift away into entrenched positions. Pretty much like our politicians really.0 -
What the nation is experiencing is a long painful lesson in what happens when you vote in Tory governments.
Millennials who grew up under Labour must be utterly bewildered by the other generations who have inflicted years of impoverishment, chaos, conflict and rank incompetence on their own country in two general elections.
To be honest I could just about stomach the Tories if they were just useless, nepotistic, shallow, unprincipled and corrupt. It's the meanness that I can't stand and Brexit has brought out the worst in them.
Xenophobic, spiteful, backstabbing schemers. General election please.
I very much doubt if you recall what it was like when the unions last ran the country. I clearly remember sitting on a train for hours because because the driver suddenly went on strike. No-one in their right mind wants Momentum running the country, that is what would happen if Khorbyn got in, he is their puppet pure and simple, your socialist utopia does not exist and cannot exist, it is just too expensive.Remain was 100% clear.
Do you think that all leavers want a Norway style deal? It satisfies the vague referendum question but I'm not sure there's any majority for it.
Remain said they would be the status quo. But that can never be the case with the eu, they are forever producing new laws, new regulations. Did anyone get to veto their new ruling on changing the clocks? If we were to remain there would be protests from one end of the country or the other whichever way we went. Iirc we as a country tried to do this before but Scotland were unhappy about it.
No, you don't know what you are getting with the eu, when we joined the common market that is what we joined, we did not join the beurocratic monster that it has become, the one that wants to rule every part of our life.What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare0 -
For the hard of thinking:LEAVE
When you leave home you leave home!Do you really, honestly believe that what the country requested was the hardest possible Brexit?
If not, what did they want?
I am obviously hard of thinking because I still don't think you've answered fully.
I'll make it simple. The answer to the first one is either Yes or No.
If it's Yes, then no further comment is necessary.
If it's No, then it requires speculation on your part which, I will understand if you don't want to go into as it requires speaking on behalf of others.0 -
Enterprise_1701C wrote: »Did anyone get to veto their new ruling on changing the clocks?
Here's a quote from the briefing paper. 'Member States should themselves decide whether their citizens live in summer or winter time'.
What's to veto?
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For the hard of thinking:LEAVE
When you leave home you leave home!
We're not stopping you from leaving, I'll take you to the airport myself.
For the hard of thinking, what you imagined you were voting for when you sided with the racists and the elite, isn't what is going to happen.
We're not going to be bullied by you, so just wind your neck in.
This whole process has been frustrated by the ERG, DUP and Theresa May has been pandering to their idiocy.. It's going to take a long time for the grown ups to take over and sort out a realistic way forward.Here's a quote from the briefing paper. 'Member States should themselves decide whether their citizens live in summer or winter time'.
What's to veto?
I think you have to choose one or the other, not changing it twice a year. I don't know if I like the idea, but it's pretty stupid to hate it just because it's foreigners telling us what to do. I'm getting fed up with people acting like we're North KoreaEnterprise_1701C wrote: »Did anyone get to veto their new ruling on changing the clocks? If we were to remain there would be protests from one end of the country or the other whichever way we went.
Democratically elected MEPs voted for it, why do you expect a veto on everything? Maybe scotland should be in a different time zone. Do you also get upset that parliament keeps bringing in new laws or do you reserve your hate for when the EU does it? If so, why??
Getting rid of clock changes seems to be gaining traction around the world, holding onto the past is our forte.0
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