Toilet waste pipe to big?

my-planet

Hi all. I'm trying to fit a toilet which fits flush against the wall, something like this: http://www.yankodesign.com/images/design_news/2007/04/9/toilet_pages.jpg
(it's a B&Q toronto toilet)
Problem is, my oulet waste/soil pipe has a collar on it which is bigger than the hole at the back of the toilet pan. I think the pipe itself is cast iron?

The collar has paint and sillicon all over/around it so I'm not sure what it's made out of.

My question is, is it safe to try to break that collar off? Is that the right way to fit this?

Thanks in advance all.

robnye

measure it, take a picture of it and toddle of to your local plumbing supplies....

i think what you need is an imperial to metric converter.....

my-planet

robnye wrote: »

measure it, take a picture of it and toddle of to your local plumbing supplies....
i think what you need is an imperial to metric converter.....

Thanks for the reply, but I don't think you understood my situation. Here is my current toilet fixing:


as you can see this toilet is not flush with the wall, and fits into the massive collar in the waste pipe. Here is my new toilet:

as you can see here, that hole need to go over the collar, which it won't :-(

andrew-b

I'm pretty sure that's a close-coupled toilet pan as B&Q only do a close-coupled toilet in the toronto range. The picture in your first link looks like a proper back-to-wall pan. I think your only options are to have the soil pipe replaced with plastic or fit the toilet as far back as it will go before it reaches the wide collar on the soil pipe with a false panel immediately behind the pan with shelf on top. If space isn't the issue i'd go for the false panel approach as it'll probably be cheaper.

Andy

wallbash

Your original fitting looks fairly standard ( if messy:D )
you have an extention piece ( plastic )from the cast/clay , then the standard
fitting to the pan . It would be easy to cut the white extention piece to free the pan. Would then be a (still)standard size to fit the pan with suitable piece.
Would be very reluctant to damage the larger unkown pipe.

Another thought any chance of erecting a false wall , this I did when fitting a 'back to the wall' pan.

wallbash

andrew b puts it much than me
types quicker too

andrew-b

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Andy

my-planet

andrew-b wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that's a close-coupled toilet pan as B&Q only do a close-coupled toilet in the toronto range. The picture in your first link looks like a proper back-to-wall pan. I think your only options are to have the soil pipe replaced with plastic or fit the toilet as far back as it will go before it reaches the wide collar on the soil pipe with a false panel immediately behind the pan with shelf on top. If space isn't the issue i'd go for the false panel approach as it'll probably be cheaper.
Andy

Correct Andy, it is a B&Q Toronto :T. Why is cutting the collar off not an option guys? Thanks.

wallbash

Not Andy :rolleyes:
But !!

If the pipe is cast iron , you might get a clean cut with an angle grinder
AND it might not shatter :eek:

If it was a clay pipe ...... chances of shattering :eek: :eek:

If you did break the pipe , could be a HUGE problem

Would take great care.You have a standard fitting to the collar ,I would use it

Dick_here

my-planet wrote: »

Hi all. I'm trying to fit a toilet which fits flush against the wall, something like this: http://www.yankodesign.com/images/design_news/2007/04/9/toilet_pages.jpg
(it's a B&Q toronto toilet)

What's the 'toilet pages' all about then ?

a11waysindebt

Is the toilet upstairs or downstairs.Also have you a stench pipe outside the property or running down an encased wall inside the house.