just a warning-RYANAIR- if you have a child not infant you have to pay for buggy

jyonda

Vendee:
This is a money saving website with lots of advice and discussion on how to avoid paying more than you really have to. You might call that being selfish, I don't.

we would simply sit in those seats because we would be looking after our interests.

Trust me, you wouldn't.

. kids? Been there got the t shirt etc.

Did PB exist when your kids were toddlers? Did Ryanair exist? Have you ever actually flown with children without allocated seating? We wouldn't have any of this hassle if they allocated the seating to minors+1 guardian!

ynot2005

good grief poppyolivia,"we get seat numbers at check in"!!!! arrrgh, oh my god i have been banging my head against a brick wall and thats a fact.

jyonda, the race to the gate idea is a feeble excuse, the queues at the gates do not form as soon as the first person who gets checked in races to the gate, infact im sure it would be difficult to not be one of the first to board if you make an effort to do that. i would say 30 mins before boarding is when the queues normally start to form.

there is really no problem, a little effort and you can avoid paying and board early.

all the issues you raise about saftey, airline greed, children in society, miserable gits, becomes null and void by taking a stroll to the gate in good time

everyones happy, you are, kiddie is, gate staff are, fee paying priority boarders are, and the rest of the queue can avoid sitting nex to the little darling/s if they want too

i board early with or without priority boarding, and its no race, no problems at all, apart from queue jumpers, and argumentative late arriving mothers and children

Vendee

jyonda wrote: »

Vendee:
This is a money saving website with lots of advice and discussion on how to avoid paying more than you really have to. You might call that being selfish, I don't.

Oh stop banging on about the purpose of this website. Its got nothing to do with your actions which are totally selfish. You have no more rights to a seat than anyone else on the aircraft. Why should someone already on the plane have to give way to someone further back in the queue. Totally and utterly selfish.

jyonda wrote: »

Trust me, you wouldn't.

Trust me, you wouldn't be able to stop me. And you would probably end up getting kicked off the aircraft because of your actions. When you board a Ryanair flight, you are instructed to take your seat as quickly as possible to facilitate a quick turnaround. If you were trying to obstruct people taking a seat you would risk being removed and rightly so.

jyonda

As I said before rear seats and emergency exit seats cannot be occupied by children for safety reasons. RULE not recommendation, so child boarding cannot be treated the same as adult boarding

Anyone want to disagree with that?

Vendee;
I WILL bang on about the purpose of this website as it's a fantastic resource for consumers and I don't want to see it diluted by corporate apologists.You also didn't say whether you had experience of non-allocated seating on a flight with children whilst aquiring that T-shirt.

You wouldn't grab the seats off me because:
A. It would be me and a small child so you'd never in a million years sit between us. If you did I'd shout 'get away from my child!' and you'd move on. Who do you think the crew will ask to disembark? Father and child or creepy guy who wants to sit next to kids?
B. You may ask 'are these free?' and I'd say 'no'. You have no actual right to sit in those particular seats yourself so you'd simply move on.
C. I'd be blocking the row, putting hand luggage in overheadlockers, getting out toys and games, drinks, sandwiches, packing them again etc.
I'd train my child to scream, cry and feign vomiting until the others arrived. (This may occur naturally).

Why would someone on the plane be giving way? The whole idea is that no-one needs to shuffle around or be separated. Again, that's in EVERYBODYS interests. Why be so hung up on the queuing aspect of boarding a plane (unless you have kids)? It's going to take off with everyone on board and by and large one seat is exactly the same as another? I don't get why it should be important for you. It certainly isn't for me when I fly without the kids. The logical consequence of your argument is that PB itself is selfish as queueing is how seating should be allocated. Whether money changed hands is only of relevance to the company, not you as a fellow passenger. So why is it important for you?

YNot2005 you put forward a compelling argument and utopian view of modern travel but unfortunately it does not work in reality as kids often have other ideas, mishaps etc. There will always be occasions when it just doesn't go to plan. Not a feeble excuse, simply the reality and if you don't believe it then give it a try. And what would be your plan for a lone parent needing to change nappies, breastfeed or if a child runs off? I suppose they'd either be lambasted for changing a nappy in the queue or an evil queue jumper for wanting to resume their original place after leaving it.

But if no-one can counter the point above then I think none of these strategies should be necessary as Kids should be called before others.

Vendee

jyonda wrote: »

You wouldn't grab the seats off me because:
A. It would be me and a small child so you'd never in a million years sit between us.
B. You may ask 'are these free?' and I'd say 'no'.
C. I'd be blocking the row, putting hand luggage in overheadlockers, getting out toys and games, drinks, sandwiches, packing them again etc.

You've changed your story now. You said you would pay the PB charge for ONE person but now you are saying you and your child have paid PB. Even with two on board, you would only be able to block one row on one side using your selfish tactics. Don't be so bloody tight. If you have paid for PB for two, just pay it for the other two and stop thinking you are more entitled than your fellow travellers.

jyonda wrote: »

You also didn't say whether you had experience of non-allocated seating on a flight with children whilst aquiring that T-shirt.

Yes I have had plenty of experience. We dealt with the situation without any fuss and without taking liberties with regards to the other passengers.

poppyolivia

ynot2005 wrote: »

good grief poppyolivia,"we get seat numbers at check in"!!!! arrrgh, oh my god i have been banging my head against a brick wall and thats a fact.

:rotfl: Morning!!

Aye so how do we STILL manage to get split up then? We get there plenty of time, how to we get to sit with each other, well one adult and one kid at least? How do people get in front of us? Seriously I tried to ask this last night but I couldn't make it make sense?:rotfl: Can seats be booked wth Air France before you check in?

I just find it weird we get there early and kids end up split from us thats all so no more head banging;)

So at the end of the day no matter if its a budget airline or not you still end up the same, cheap has nothing to do with it IMO. Depending, our flights are about £200+ per person return to Charles De Gualle from Edinburgh, maybe that is budget for there?

Anyway take it easy dude don't get stressed!:p

thepinkladez_2

omg! just realised this thread is still going! so is it safe to say we are no nearer to the end of the argument?! interesting points have been made though! i do doubt we will ever agree!

jyonda

As I said before rear seats and emergency exit seats cannot be occupied by children for safety reasons. RULE not recommendation, so child boarding cannot be treated the same as adult boarding

Are you going to counter this or not?

Don't be so bloody tight

It's a moneysaving website!:rotfl:

poppyolivia

thepinkladez wrote: »

omg! just realised this thread is still going! so is it safe to say we are no nearer to the end of the argument?! interesting points have been made though! i do doubt we will ever agree!

Thing is I'm still wondering what they are argueing about? It keeps changing!!:rotfl: I thought it was about you and your buggy?

Vendee

jyonda wrote: »

"As I said before rear seats and emergency exit seats cannot be occupied by children for safety reasons. RULE not recommendation, so child boarding cannot be treated the same as adult boarding"

Are you going to counter this or not?

The emergency exit seats should not be occupied quite a large group of people, not just children.

jyonda wrote: »

"Don't be so bloody tight"

It's a moneysaving website!:rotfl:

Yes and its a community based website but your actions are totally selfish and you have a "sod you" attitude towards your fellow passengers. Yes you have kids but the world doesn't owe you a living because of that. Most of us have kids and we get on with it without whining about it. If you think so much of your familly and want them to board first, pay for it like the rest of us.