just a warning-RYANAIR- if you have a child not infant you have to pay for buggy

jyonda

You know, I think anyone booking a flight with a minor should be required as part of the booking process to buy PB.

ynot2005

jyonda, instead of expecting ryanair and other passengers to move seats for your family, or let you jump the queue so you get on first

why not get to the queue early and be one of the first on, the non priority queue that is

yep its that easy, no need to pay for priority boarding and be selfish and claim other seats, no need for arguments with cabin crew

just get to the gate early, and if you end up behind a dozen or so priority boarders, and a handfull of non priority boarders, grit your teeth and suffer the injustice of it all.

yes thats right, its so easy, priority boarders are now few and far between since they have to pay for the service

there is no need for you to be seperated from your children and you dont have to pay a penny more for it,

get to the gate early, there is no need to wander up to the front of the queue and try and change ryanair policy to suit your needs, annoy other passengers and annoy the gate staff.

SomeBozo

ynot2005 wrote: »

jyonda, instead of expecting ryanair and other passengers to move seats for your family, or let you jump the queue so you get on first

why not get to the queue early and be one of the first on, the non priority queue that is

yep its that easy, no need to pay for priority boarding and be selfish and claim other seats, no need for arguments with cabin crew

just get to the gate early, and if you end up behind a dozen or so priority boarders, and a handfull of non priority boarders, grit your teeth and suffer the injustice of it all.

yes thats right, its so easy, priority boarders are now few and far between since they have to pay for the service

there is no need for you to be seperated from your children and you dont have to pay a penny more for it,

get to the gate early, there is no need to wander up to the front of the queue and try and change ryanair policy to suit your needs, annoy other passengers and annoy the gate staff.

:T Well said.

Furthermore, it's quicker for EVERYONE if families juggling with toddlers and hand luggage aren't cluttering up the aisles when the 'normal' passengers are trying to barge their way down the plane.

I agree.

So why not go last? After everyone has sat down, then let families on. They will be no barging around then and you can find seats at your pleasure.

If you take children with you, its down to you to sort out seating arrangements. No-one owes you anything. If you want to board first, then pay for it.

I have 2 kids and when I fly I only fly with an airline that lets me pre-book my seats. When short haul and this is not available I pay extra to get on the plane first and ensure we sit together.

Note I sort this out myself. I don't expect someone to do it for me!

Bozo

ynot2005

exactly somebozo, its not rocket science, its nothing to with society and their attitude to children, blackmail blah blah

its all about getting to the gate early....end of problem, no problem for anyone, no extra to pay

the priority boarding queues are disappearing fast as the weeks go by, since june 3rd you have to pay to priority board, its more like 10-15 at the moment in the priority boarding queue, and im sure that will be down to a handfull in a couple of months

there is no problem for mothers and children, the only problems are the ones they have created for themselves

jyonda

SomeBozo;
If we fly with allocated seating we would wait until last for exactly that reason but the airlines always call people with kids first. Why is that? TBH I don't care if we go on last in fact most of the time we wait until everyone is off the plane before leaving.
Choice of airline is not ALWAYS a cost consideration. A lot of the time it's actually not possible to book with a premium airline over a cheap and cheerful as many small airports exist which are not visited by majors. Working for a major airline I'd have thought you'd know that SomeBozo.

YNOT2005;
I don't want other people to move. I want to go on before them!
Claiming seats isn't selfish, we paid for them!
Being first in the queue behind PB is a good suggestion but hard to guarantee being first at check in, first through security, then long walk to gate as people will literally race to get there first. I've no idea why, the plane won't take off any sooner. Also little kids tend to have lots of needs like nappies changing, playing etc which means you move slowly and you'd lose your place in the queue if unaccompanied.
Other passengers (without kids believe it or not) were actually vocalising their disbelief at the gate agents attitude.... Not at all annoyed with us... we then had to carry our buggy, handluggage and 2 kids down a flight of stairs to the tarmac. We never complained about that or any of the other numerous inconveniences because we got what we paid for BUT safety is not a consumer choice.

You both do realise that we are on a money SAVING website don't you? Sticking up for the airlines ruthless attitudes, insisting people shell out for unnecessary extras like safety doesn't really fit in here.

Ultimately, as far as safety goes, children are a special group who can't sit in certain places on the plane and need special attention according to the airlines rules, NOT mine. So to ensure their own rules are complied with it is the airlines responsibility to make provision for that. NOT charge money for it. End of.

poppyolivia

ynot2005 wrote: »

exactly somebozo, its not rocket science, its nothing to with society and their attitude to children, blackmail blah blah

its all about getting to the gate early....end of problem, no problem for anyone, no extra to pay

the priority boarding queues are disappearing fast as the weeks go by, since june 3rd you have to pay to priority board, its more like 10-15 at the moment in the priority boarding queue, and im sure that will be down to a handfull in a couple of months

there is no problem for mothers and children, the only problems are the ones they have created for themselves

right what do you do when you go 3-4 hours before flight and still get split up, how early is early? Do you all recommend say what 6 hours before the flight, 8 maybe?

By the way I am NOT talking £30 flights here....chance would be a fine thing!!;)

Edited to say...

Are you guys on about free for all seating by the way???lol I think I lost the plot on this ages ago? We get seat numbers at check in and we are still split up (not all the time though) and that with roughly a 4 hour wait at airport before take off situation. We always ask to be sat with each other (well at least one adult to one kid type thing) and the usual is 'lets see what there is' How do people book all those seats before us? When the check in is opened we run like the clappers lol

SomeBozo

jyonda wrote: »

SomeBozo;
If we fly with allocated seating we would wait until last for exactly that reason but the airlines always call people with kids first. .

RyainAir don't. Easyjet don't.

BA do. Virgin do. Certainly long haul do.

This is a money saving site and hence we are talking about the lower budget airlines.

Choice of airline is not ALWAYS a cost consideration.

This is a money saving site.

I don't see any complaints here about the bigger more expensive airlines. I see easyjet, I see RyanAir and I see BMIBaby (not BMI).

A lot of the time it's actually not possible to book with a premium airline over a cheap and cheerful as many small airports exist which are not visited by majors.

I agree with this a little. But as you point out, we are not talking about convience here, we are talking about moneysaving. Can you name your route?

Working for a major airline I'd have thought you'd know that SomeBozo.

I can promise you that none of my customers hear a curse word from any of our staff. Every whim is carried out by our staff and we get no complaints. The only complaints we do get is about luggage (another company does that) or airport staff (ditto).

But I do promise this. My company charges a lot of money for our service!

You both do realise that we are on a money SAVING website don't you? QUOTE]

Yes of course! This site is about saving money with a little revenge added in for good measure if possible. I dont even think Martin though would tolerate unjustified criticism.

Sticking up for the airlines ruthless attitudes, insisting people shell out for unnecessary extras like safety doesn't really fit in here.

Doesn't fit in here? Are you a mod?

There are no safety aspects to boarding with children. There are reccommendations for sure. But there are reccomendations for a 5 a day too, doesnt mean they get followed does it.

You want to board first. When you can't or don't you don't like.

Thats a extra.

I would respectifully suggest that your expectations are not compatible with RyanAir.

BA perhaps. Quantas perhaps.

But not Ryanair.

Thats a end of.

Bozo

Vendee

jyonda wrote: »

In response to being told I can't go ahead with hand luggage and claim seats. If I wouldn't be this direct I would not be looking after my familys interests and unfortunately it's because the situation demands it. It's not a choice.

Later on in your post, you lecture us about being selfish but that's exactly what your attitude smacks of. If my wife and I boarded and you were trying to protect several seats for others in your party, we would simply sit in those seats because we would be looking after our interests. And before you ask.... kids? Been there got the t shirt etc. As for your last sentence..... yes, you do have a choice. Either pay for priority boarding or get there early enough to head the non priority queue.

Having said all that, I don't believe that young children should be seated away from their parents but the parents have some responsibility to ensure that doesn't happen. Perhaps parties travelling with young children should be compelled to purchase priority boarding but a reduced rate... say 50%.

poppyolivia

deleted because it didn't make sense..sorry xx

jyonda

You know Bozo, all through this discussion I've addressed each one of your points whereas you just pick the ones of mine that you fancy answering and even they don't really add up. I'm not sure if you have really misunderstood the basis of my points or if you just seek to distort them.

This is a money saving site and hence we are talking about the lower budget airlines.

Er.. no. We talk about every company and service here on MSE, we just want it cheaper and/or better quality.

This is a money saving site.

I don't see any complaints here about the bigger more expensive airlines. I see easyjet, I see RyanAir and I see BMIBaby (not BMI).

I'm not sure what you're getting at but I think you'll find plenty of discussion on all airlines. Some complaints, some not.

Doesn't fit in here? Are you a mod?

I don't have to be a mod to point out your views are a little biased toward the airline, seeing as you work for one.

You want to board first. When you can't or don't you don't like.

Thats a extra.

This makes no sense.

And you're wrong:

We've caught plenty of Easyjet flights and they DO call people with kids after the PB's.You have to jostle your way through the massed herd at the front of the gate who begrudgingly let you pass but Easyjet do do it. Oh, but be quick otherwise they'll trample your wee ones underfoot to get on the plane first... Ooh ooh ooh I must get on there first!!!! It's a pack mentality.

First choice on long haul sell allocated seating and they would sit families apart as we had a huge ding dong with them over this as well but that's another story.

Name my route: Stansted to Newquay - exclusively Ryanair. No choice.

I would respectifully suggest that your expectations are not compatible with RyanAir.

Wrong again. I'll happily walk the length of airports, carry buggys up and down stairs, sit in a cramped seat for 2 hours being bombarded with scratchcards adverts, pay 6 quid for 2 cups of tea all for my 1p bargain flight. What I don't expect is a conflict between safety and profit.

As I said before rear seats and emergency exit seats cannot be occupied by children for safety reasons. RULE not recommendation, so child boarding cannot be treated the same as adult boarding and once again you are wrong. The cabin crew on our final flight were quite happy to overlook this safety RULE for the benefit of their convenience when our family of four boarded almost after everyone. It's their policy not to preallocate seating for minors, not ours so the responsibility is on the airline to make provision and deal with that situation. And doesn't it scare you a bit what other safety rules of theirs they might be ignoring for their convenience/ profit?

Saftey Before Profit.