UK Unemployment on the up!

Generali

steadysaver wrote: »

Selfish b@sta!!!ds

Obviously if you're the one not dying it seems like a good idea but it doesn't half mess with actuarial tables.

LittleMissAspie

poppysarah wrote: »

Replacing full time jobs with part time work

I sometimes wonder what would happen if everybody worked part time. We'd all earn half as much but everything would cost half as much, so overall we'd have the same spending power. Then everyone would spend the other half of the week working for charities for free. I think this could make for a good system.

ianmr65

mustrum_ridcully wrote: »

Yes but the public sector provides a service that we would pay for one way or another,

Indeed, pity about the second half of your post.. All developded nations have to have a public sector, in the good times, this can and is used to boost employment. when times get tougher, certainly in the uk, the tories get in and slash public spending, and lots of these jobs disappear. All good so far

What we can't continue to sustain is the public sector superannuation / index linked pension schemes... which are running at a seriously high proportion of GDP. Have virtually no investement (lol) element, and which threaten to spiral out of control over the coming years.

As a firm beliver that pension schemes make pension companies richer today, and me poorer tommorow. And having never worked in the public sector, Don't see why i should contiribute to civil, and public servants gold plated retirement funds today. And get even poorer tommorow.

dopester

ianmr65 wrote: »

All developded nations have to have a public sector, in the good times, this can and is used to boost employment. when times get tougher, certainly in the uk, the tories get in and slash public spending, and lots of these jobs disappear.

When Labour got elected in 1997 they took over Government where the Conservatives had around 37% of people working in the public sector. It's now 48% or 49% under Labour.

The Conservatives could have easily gone on a big "more people employed than ever before" routine by creating a load of public sector jobs but didn't do.

tomstickland

LittleMissAspie wrote: »

I sometimes wonder what would happen if everybody worked part time. We'd all earn half as much but everything would cost half as much, so overall we'd have the same spending power. Then everyone would spend the other half of the week working for charities for free. I think this could make for a good system.

Why would everything cost half as much? It would take the same amount of labour to make it.

setmefree2

LittleMissAspie wrote: »

I sometimes wonder what would happen if everybody worked part time. We'd all earn half as much but everything would cost half as much, so overall we'd have the same spending power. Then everyone would spend the other half of the week working for charities for free. I think this could make for a good system.

This is what people used to say in the 70's! Everyone would have tons of leisure time and retire at 50;)

PasturesNew

dean_ham wrote: »

my view is if you can press a button, you can work.

eh?
How do you work that one out then?

You need a degree to know WHEN to press it.

PasturesNew

LittleMissAspie wrote: »

I sometimes wonder what would happen if everybody worked part time. We'd all earn half as much but everything would cost half as much, so overall we'd have the same spending power. Then everyone would spend the other half of the week working for charities for free. I think this could make for a good system.

I'd agree with that, except things wouldn't cost half as much.

I blame two-job couples. Once two people have got together to pool their resources, one should give up their job.

More jobs to go round then.

fc123

PasturesNew wrote: »

We will enter into a new bubble - Pension Age Inflation... you won't be able to age quick enough to reach pension age ... as pension age is increased by 2 years for every year you live.

Already in my lifetime, for women the pension age went from 60 to 65 and now I think my retirement age is set at 66 after their last fiddling about.

I expect by the time I get to 66 it will be 70 or 72 (75?)

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

fc123

Just a abit of anecdotal..the Govt are clamping down on benefit fraud...but properly this time. Unfortunately, I can't post who but I know of a benefit fraud pilot that is absolutely cleaning up at the moment...flushing out loads who have topped up their benefits for years.
I also have personal experience of 2 persons who have just signed off (under threat of court action) 1 signed on for 11 years and the other, after 15 years.

Neither had any plans to sign off in the near future as the little top ups they had going gave them a decent lifestyle.

I may add, that both are having a bit of a shock at how much rent, council tax etc actually cost plus how many hours one has to do to cover those bills too.

I don't have a lot of time for gthe govt (whoever is in power) but there is deff some change going on.
I always wondered if they would bring in the 5 year scheme that operates in some states in USA?

Everyone needs a safety net but not for the whole of their life....plus working
families are getting fed up with it.