UK Unemployment on the up!

mustrum_ridcully

!!!!!!? wrote: »

Yet the public sector has endured for years......

Yes but the public sector provides a service that we would pay for one way or another, whereas dole scroungers contribute nothing back to the country.

Generali

slipthru wrote: »

I guess they will be raising the age of retirment soon again. And i agree the writing has to be on the wall for the long term unemployed at some point.

I worked for HSBC up until 2000. I saw in The Times this am that the they have increased the retirement age from 60 to 65 in the defined benefits scheme.

In effect that means the retirement age has gone up by 15 years since I left there as virtually everyone used to retire aged 50 with a tasty lump sum, a mortgage paid off (due to 30 years of working with a subsidised mortgage), good savings (SAYE scheme) and a decent pension.

There were a lot of people in their late 20s-early 30s that were hanging in there, waiting for this gilded retirement that was coming their way despite hating their jobs. I tried to tell them that it wasn't going to happen but who listens to Generali.......

mitchaa

Are the 2.6m people on incapacity benefit included in unemployment figures or are they transferred to IB from JSA to keep the numbers down?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/1577312/1.9m-on-benefit-'should-go-back-to-work'.html

I believe you can go onto IB if you are too fat, an alcoholic or a junkie:rolleyes:

edit...answer to the above, yep you can

100,000 wasters

http://tpa.typepad.com/media/2008/04/daily-telegra-2.html

ALIBOBSY

slipthru wrote: »

I guess they will be raising the age of retirment soon again, and i agree the writing has to be on the wall for the long term unemployed at some point.

As a women my retirement age has already been raised twice, once to 65 and now with the recent amendment to 67. At this rate I won't retire till I'm 80 lol.
ali x

WTF?_2

I don't know how many people on IB really are incapacitated but judging from the masses of 'disabled' car spaces that seem to occupy huge swathes of every big car park (notably the big Tesco near me and my local sports centre), somebody thinks there are plenty of disabled drivers out there.

Strangely, many of the cars typically using the abundant rows of disabled spaces don't sport 'Disabled' stickers. Obviously some sort of oversight. Also, the 'disabled' parkers without badges seem to comprise of a disproportionately large number of BMW, Mercedes and luxury 4x4 drivers.

PasturesNew

poppysarah wrote: »

Replacing full time jobs with part time work and then employing people who get tax credits is the new way.

For those that can get them.
This really stuffed hard working singles when they did this. It really brought about inequality imho as you'd be working alongside somebody who worked a lot less hours (or the same) and yet took home a LOT more than you did.

PasturesNew

slipthru wrote: »

I guess they will be raising the age of retirment soon again, and i agree the writing has to be on the wall for the long term unemployed at some point.

We will enter into a new bubble - Pension Age Inflation... you won't be able to age quick enough to reach pension age ... as pension age is increased by 2 years for every year you live.

Already in my lifetime, for women the pension age went from 60 to 65 and now I think my retirement age is set at 66 after their last fiddling about.

I expect by the time I get to 66 it will be 70 or 72 (75?)

Sir_Humphrey

!!!!!!? wrote: »

I don't know how many people on IB really are incapacitated but judging from the masses of 'disabled' car spaces that seem to occupy huge swathes of every big car park (notably the big Tesco near me and my local sports centre), somebody thinks there are plenty of disabled drivers out there.

Strangely, many of the cars typically using the abundant rows of disabled spaces don't sport 'Disabled' stickers. Obviously some sort of oversight. Also, the 'disabled' parkers without badges seem to comprise of a disproportionately large number of BMW, Mercedes and luxury 4x4 drivers.

Shifting long term unemployed on IB has been a way to massage the figures since the early 1980s. It was a way for the Tories at the time to mask the effects of de-industrialisation. It is nothing new.

GoToGal

PasturesNew wrote: »

We will enter into a new bubble - Pension Age Inflation... you won't be able to age quick enough to reach pension age ... as pension age is increased by 2 years for every year you live.

Already in my lifetime, for women the pension age went from 60 to 65 and now I think my retirement age is set at 66 after their last fiddling about.

I expect by the time I get to 66 it will be 70 or 72 (75?)

Working is the new retirement :rolleyes:

Dan:_4

Yes! This is great news! Unemployement on the up so more and more people are gonna be out of work and wont be able to pay their mortgages, we can then snap up their homes for penuts.