Plant ID Thread (Merged)

magpie

fayjmck wrote: »

Hmm native or planted woodland? Had a look at callicarpa - they aren't growing in the same bunched manner wonder if it is that family looks more like something from blueberry/ or rose family type of fruit - is the top of the fruit indented with a bit of a tiny spike like thing point? Interesting, sorry got my botanists/plantsman head on! love a challenge

Thanks for replying,
Yes the top of the fruit does have a spike like thing. When I look at them in artificial light, then they have a jade green shimmer as well as blue and purple. They also look like viburnum davidii, however they are not as blue and the stalks are not red

Pippilongstocking

Me thinks its some kind of ericaceae - vaccinium type thing - but hard to know without seeing them, (if you had one to pop in post I could try and id it - but it might be pointless, I might only be able to get it into its family (at least that part of my rather expensive post grad hasn't been wasted!!)) other wise look at growing vacciniums online and try what it says for growing them from seed.

My first thought was some kinda wierd blaeberry with the stems almost leafless , jointed and the berries looking that way.

http://www.treesforlife.org.uk/tfl.blaeberry.html

Look at the stems which are bare on this page and think about your ones, wondering if you have something similar to this but the Granada one?

Again goodluck!!

magpie

fayjmck wrote: »

Me thinks its some kind of ericaceae - vaccinium type thing - but hard to know without seeing them, (if you had one to pop in post I could try and id it - but it might be pointless, I might only be able to get it into its family (at least that part of my rather expensive post grad hasn't been wasted!!)) other wise look at growing vacciniums online and try what it says for growing them from seed.

My first thought was some kinda wierd blaeberry with the stems almost leafless , jointed and the berries looking that way.

http://www.treesforlife.org.uk/tfl.blaeberry.html

Look at the stems which are bare on this page and think about your ones, wondering if you have something similar to this but the Granada one?

Again goodluck!!

Thanks for your help, I think it could be a sort of bilberry/lbueberry.
Its pretty and I'm going to try and grow it from seed

Fortyfoot

Hi there, my first post on this board. I have a problem with a weed in my garden which loves to grown between paving stones and is now working into the borders. It is in the shaded area of my garden.

I have tried roundup, both domestic and agricultural and it has not worked. I have not tried sodium chlorate as I have bulbs in the borders.

This summer I poured boiling water on some on the pavings and that did work.

The photos are HERE and I would like to know what it is, and is there a weed killer, selective or not, to eradicate this weed.

Thanks,

Fortyfoot

Pippilongstocking

Hiya Forty foot - from the pics (and sorry its not clear) Looks like its a liverwort?

They aren't the same as normal weeds - they are the same kind of plants as mosses etc - not sure how normal weedkiller would do with them - might want to look at a normal lawn weedkiller as they might have selective chemicals to deal with mosses etc and maybe liverworts -if of course I am right. If it looks like a kind of green thallus - with fluffy hairy bits attaching it to the pavement then its probably a liverwort - looks like marchantia sp ?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marchantiophyta
But I could be blethering nonsense. (normal)
http://www.dgsgardening.btinternet.co.uk/liverwort.htm
Let me know if you think I am wrong - and will endeavour to look again

Fortyfoot

Thanks for that fayjmck. Yes I am sure you are right. I have put another photo on the link. Double left click the photo and it will give an enlargement. I think I have some armillatox in my garage.

Thanks again,

Fortyfoot

Davesnave

I used glyphosate on liverworts growing on top of gravel in long term-stratified seed pots. It worked. They are green, so they must die eventually if they can't photosynthesise. As far as I recall, it took some time to take effect though.

Pippilongstocking

Grand, only ever dealt with them by hand weeding - what a pain, so excellent tip from Dave - cheerio!

Fortyfoot

Davesnave wrote: »

I used glyphosate on liverworts growing on top of gravel in long term-stratified seed pots. It worked. They are green, so they must die eventually if they can't photosynthesise. As far as I recall, it took some time to take effect though.

I have used glyphosphate repeatedly in 1:50 dilution, what strength do you use?

Fortyfoot

Davesnave

Fortyfoot wrote: »

I have used glyphosphate repeatedly in 1:50 dilution, what strength do you use?

Fortyfoot

Strongish! I only needed to do a tray full of pots, so it would have been measured with a syringe based on the manufacturer's guidelines + a bit more, knowing me. As these were shrub/hellebore seeds, mostly not due to come up till the end of winter, or even the following winter, I wouldn't have been overly worried about the concentration. Although the liverworts died, they persisted for quite a time, having just gone a mucky yellow colour.

Since then, I've changed the gravel I use on the top of pots, which helps.

As Fay's link suggests, you could also try Jeyes, but maybe not too strong or too late on, with the bulbs growing below. I've had glyphosate translocate through the roots of plants I've killed by painting it on, to others growing close by, but I think liverworts are pretty shallow & don't have roots in the normal sense. While Sodium chorate is a definite 'No,' something like Weedol would certainly get you an instant effect, and it doesn't persist in soil.