Car Tax increases from now to 2010

dwileflunker

mark88man wrote: »

Thank you I am not naive, but neither am I selfish

I don't think I ever inferred you were selfish, I'm sure you are not.

Topcat2007

Those of you who object to this retrospective tax should complain direct to 10 Downing Street on-line like I did. I made my feelings perfectly clear to them. I have no objection to paying a higher road tax if I am aware of it when buying the car, but to backdate it so that I now have an increased charge on the car I bought in 2002 is immoral. I would like to change my vote in the last election & boot this lot OUT!:mad:

inmypocketnottheirs

Topcat2007 wrote: »

I would like to change my vote in the last election & boot this lot OUT!:mad:

All together now:

Things can only get better....

Yeah right!:rolleyes:

What a bunch of muppets!

ihatecharges

AdrianHi wrote: »

Have you ever lived with a car with fun (I like that, very funny) or run flat tyres for all 4 season of the year?
I have and eventually by month 14 and after significant research removed the run flat tyres from my car (designed for them) and fitted standard tyres. I've also been discussing this topic on and off with other owners for 2+ years and among them are engineers.
Run-flat tyres are on most cars utter rubbish because:
1. The real range de pressurised is anywhere from 2 miles to usually not more than 50 miles, you might get 150+ if your lucky. This might be enough to get you off the motorway.
2. No small / medium sized tyre fitter carries run flats in stock, 24-48 hours+ wait to get them which is no good when you have 50 miles to get a replacement. Run-flats frequently go out of stock and onto back order for anything from 3 weeks to 3 months depending on the size you need. Most people drive mroe than 150 miles in 3 weeks / months
3. Blowout protection - 85% of blowouts caused by poorly maintained tyre pressures (get in the habit of correcting every 2 to 4 weeks), 10% from slow punctures (Typre Pressure Monitoring system will warn you of this) leaving you with a residual 5% risk of blow out without the need for run flats.
4. Run-flats cause tramlining, harsh ride, sometimes uneven wear patterns (with no other explanation such as tracking alignment) all of which are worse in cold conditions, cost 20% more, last 30% less and therefore have greater environmental impact as you will consume more tyres in the life of the car.
5. Wheel gel / foam kits will not temporarily repair side wall damage or larger puncture holes

So all in all I have the opinion that there is not substitute for a spare wheel, even if we make do with a space saver.
As said I have had to get rid of the run-flats (couldn't buy them even if I wanted them at the time) and I did have a puncture beyond the abilities of the very good gel product (Ultraseal) I was using, so I was stranded.

I have however driven some combinations of wheel size and suspension set up that do seem to work well with these tyres. In time with more development I think they could become more successful and acceptable.

All valid points, cheers.

I have runflat tyres fitted, first time I had Bridgestones, now I have Continentals and I have no issues with the ride but everyone is different and for me I like the safety from a blow out point of view as I do alot of motorway driving.

The figures quoted for driving on run flats varies dependant on the speed you are travelling so there will be some variables.

Supply is an issue I know as I know other owners who have issues with sourcing tyres.

I had minor tramlining on Bridgestone's but no issues with Conti's so I'm sure they are improving all the time.

Having seen drivers have blowouts and watch them career off the motorway then it does make you think! The last one I saw the car ended up on its roof along the M6.

They are like Marmite, love them or hate them I guess!:beer:

AdrianHi

ihatecharges wrote: »

All valid points, cheers.

I have runflat tyres fitted, first time I had Bridgestones, now I have Continentals and I have no issues with the ride but everyone is different and for me I like the safety from a blow out point of view as I do alot of motorway driving.

The figures quoted for driving on run flats varies dependant on the speed you are travelling so there will be some variables.

Supply is an issue I know as I know other owners who have issues with sourcing tyres.

I had minor tramlining on Bridgestone's but no issues with Conti's so I'm sure they are improving all the time.

Having seen drivers have blowouts and watch them career off the motorway then it does make you think! The last one I saw the car ended up on its roof along the M6.

They are like Marmite, love them or hate them I guess!:beer:

I think the problem is that they are so variable. Worse in winter and Bridgestones are well known to be the worst of the run-flat tyre lot.
Having driven a number of 3 series now I also find suspension type and wheel size makes a big difference. A quick run down of my findings:
Driven three 320d SE up to around June 2006 build dates (including mine) all on Continentals and they all show harsh ride and tram-lining.
Driven one June 2006 318i SE on the same tyres and it was absolutely brilliant, no harsh ride or tram-ling problems
Driven one April 2006 325d M Sport on 18" wheels - you would think this would be the worst, but it's not, only beaten by the 318i SE for ride comfort.

I love the concept of run-flats too, it's just in practice they don't deliver as you would expect or hope and they are still no substitute for some kind of spare wheel.
The ideal set up would be a car and run-flat tyre more advanced in design for this kind of technology and a spare wheel. Drive a new (post March 2007 "facelift" built) 5 series M Sport on 18" wheels and you learn that it can be done right, this car is brilliant.

For now Michelin Pilot Premacy HP ZP or Pilot Sports are the best of the run flat tyre lot but you pay 10%+ more for these compared to Conti's or Bricktones.

I'm curious, what do you have exactly?

ihatecharges

AdrianHi wrote: »

I'm curious, what do you have exactly?

I have a 1 series, first one had Bridgestones and now I have continentals on my latest 1er.

not_fat_anymore

Ok i see what the government are trying to do but in these days where we ARE still in ressession though the government cant see it (well if i was on £45000 a week the ressession wouldn't bother me too !!) the government should of put this duty off for another 2-3 years untill people realy do have the money to spend like this . may i suggest the government do what the German gov did and issue interest free loans for the purchase of new cars aswell as take our old cars for recycling (which pays for the interest).

Not everybody has the money floating around to go and buy a new car just like that and if our gov has decided we all need new enviormentally clean cars they ither should issue help to push it through or give them out free to get all the unclean cars off the road

I am furious i'm having to pay £205 for a Deawoo lanos 1.6 and set to rise next year when i could be driving around in a 2 ltr for the same duty where is the sence in that !!!!!!!!

We have to get rid of this Mr Brown who we didn't elect anyway !!!

forgotmyname

Where is the sense in replying to a post thats almost 2 YEARS!!! old? lol

Simple solution buy a car in a cheaper tax bracket or buy a 2L car? My 2L car is £150 a year.

Vote for who you like it wont change. GWIZ is free road tax.

Sorry to sound harsh but you bought it, Not a secret tax, Info is available.

I bought a car that was registered 6 days after the change, Cost me £20 more a year than it would have buying a 6 day older one, But i was not going to miss out on the right car at the right price for £20 a year.