Car Tax increases from now to 2010

zeon999

LOL your right the way it all works dont really make much sence, in saying that remember your paying a huge amount of tax in your fual costs. So if your doing that high mileage then you are paying alot of extra tax in the extra fuel costs.

As for older cars not having to pay the higher band tax I think thats something that will changes eventually aswell, they wont leave it like that forever.

They had to do that due to people running round in old cars and not being able to change car to get lower tax, it would have left you with no choice but to buy a very new car with low emmisions or pay high tax.

Now you can get quite an old car with low emmisions so I can image soon enough any car over a certain age, the tax cost for the will suddenly rocket in the comming years.

thescouselander

Zeon999 - I think your views are very short sighted. You might think you are ok with your low emission car but many people have been stung by the fact that the new tax increases have been backdated to older cars - this is unpresidedted as new schemes have previously been applied to new cars.

There is a bigger issue though. We are curently entering a difficult time for the economy and peoples budgets are beeing squeezed heavily. When the government taxes a large proportion of the country this removes cash from the economy that would otherwise have gone to businesses supporting jobs. Ultimately increasing taxes in this economic environment could increase the chances for entering a recession and many people could lose their jobs - lets see if people think tax increases are good then.

Woby_Tide

dannynixon wrote: »

I drive a Xsara Picasso which costs £170.00 a year at the minute. By 2010 it will increase to £200 per year and £110 for 6 months. This is a joke.

Get the diesel version then, that way your tax will go down instead...

dannynixon

Only just bought it recently and only need it to last a year so maybe get one then eh? Would it be by much?

I was gonna buy a dieself but I got a cracking deal on this one, it twisted my arm

Woby_Tide

dannynixon wrote: »

Only just bought it recently and only need it to last a year so maybe get one then eh? Would it be by much?

I was gonna buy a dieself but I got a cracking deal on this one, it twisted my arm

we toyed between two deals also and then went for the diesel over petrol, cost a bit more but we've pretty much recouped that over the year in what we've saved on the MPG, the tax reduction is just coming as a bonus, think it's £120 currently, then down to £110 finishing at £115 (thats teh 1.6Hdi)

AdrianHi

I think the sharp increases applied retrospectively to cars back to 1st March 2001 is unfair, you do your sums, you work out that for your mileage and planned length of ownership a petrol works out most economical and then the rules change retrospectively.
As to the future, it is meant to influence buying habits.

dwileflunker,
Entry level Altea is £12K. For the same money you can get a 1.4S VW Golf with lower emissions and a £250 first year, £180 a year standard VED charge. The Golf also holds it's value a little better than the Altea so will be cheaper for you in the long run especially if changing every 3 years. In fact the lower depreciation makes a bigger saving for you than any VED increases or savings between the cars.
Additionally you might find other engine choices available on the Altea when your time comes to change anyway. I bet the same 1.4 engine in the Golf turns up in the Altea soon or something even better will be available.
Either way the VED increases are "peanuts" compared to all the other costs associated with the car.

bryanb

The thing that annoys me is that a car identical in every respect to mine, except a couple of years older, pays less VED than mine.

zeon999

thescouselander wrote: »

Zeon999 - I think your views are very short sighted. You might think you are ok with your low emission car but many people have been stung by the fact that the new tax increases have been backdated to older cars - this is unpresidedted as new schemes have previously been applied to new cars.

There is a bigger issue though. We are curently entering a difficult time for the economy and peoples budgets are beeing squeezed heavily. When the government taxes a large proportion of the country this removes cash from the economy that would otherwise have gone to businesses supporting jobs. Ultimately increasing taxes in this economic environment could increase the chances for entering a recession and many people could lose their jobs - lets see if people think tax increases are good then.

Yeah I kinda hear what your saying fella but thing is who is really the short sighted one here me who was expecting the high tax on high emissions cars or those who bought a car with high emissions for their last car and now are moaning about it?

Thing is if your hard up for cash and this is going to make such a huge difference to you then why did you not buy a more economical car in the first place? Oh that’s right you had to get something which had at least a little poke in it, well now you should expect to pay for that decision. If you had of picked something more economical they you would actually be looking at a decrease in road tax instead of an increase.

So in that theory if your hard up for cash then you would have bought an economical car and you would see a decrease in tax, then those who have the money and want to drive around in uneconomical cars can they simply have to pay extra for the luxury of that.

Nobody is making people keep these uneconomical cars and come on that guy further up even said when he renews his car he’s going to get the same again, where is the sense in that? Moaning about having to pay higher tax for an uneconomical car but then saying but I am going to get the same again.

Yeah times are hard for many with cash but if the government would have raised taxes in one way or another if they are to gain from this which no doubt they will. So whether it was extra tax on fuel or extra road tax on uneconomical cars don’t really make much difference to those who are moaning that they have an uneconomical car.

I mean come on what do you think will happen if the Tories come to power do you honestly think they will lower the tax people have to pay?

dwileflunker

zeon999 wrote: »

LMOA, your going to buy the same car again but yur moaning the tax it to high. Where is the sence it that?

To be hionest whenever I see people moaning about the new tax I think its an absolute joke to be honest we have all know for a long time now that if your car is not low emmissions then your going to pay a larger amount of tax.

Now you say you only bought the car last year, well why did you buy a car which is in the high end of the emssions scale? If you dont want to pay high road tax then get a car with lower emmisions, simple.

Its been going this way for ages now and yet everybody has been so reluctant to change their ways and now moan like hell cos they are stuck in a high tax band.

Anybody who did not want to pay high tax should already have changed to low emmisons car, no excuses really unless you have not changed your car in over 4 years. In which case maybe its time for a change if the new road tax bothers you so much.

First of all as you do not know my personal circumstances you are in no position to tell me what type of car I should or should not buy. Whilst the emmisions is a consideration it is by no means the only consideration and the physical aspect of the car is extremely important to me. Ideally I could do with a larger car as the height of the car is an important factor but of course a larger car would incur higher costs so this is in effect a compromise for me.

If you consider people moaning about high taxes as a joke then I don't rate your sense of humour. The fact that we knew of these tax rises doesn't mean that we should just accept them without comment. Just because the government says this is the right thing to do doesn't necesarily mean that they are right and that we should all kowtow to what they say. If you genuinely believe that all these tax increases are solely about saving the planet then I think you're sadly mistaken.

zeon999

dwileflunker wrote: »

First of all as you do not know my personal circumstances you are in no position to tell me what type of car I should or should not buy. Whilst the emmisions is a consideration it is by no means the only consideration and the physical aspect of the car is extremely important to me. Ideally I could do with a larger car as the height of the car is an important factor but of course a larger car would incur higher costs so this is in effect a compromise for me.

If you consider people moaning about high taxes as a joke then I don't rate your sense of humour. The fact that we knew of these tax rises doesn't mean that we should just accept them without comment. Just because the government says this is the right thing to do doesn't necesarily mean that they are right and that we should all kowtow to what they say. If you genuinely believe that all these tax increases are solely about saving the planet then I think you're sadly mistaken.

Fella come on I never told you what car to buy, I simply said if you can’t afford to pay the extra tax and fuel then you should look for something cheaper to run. And that comment was not aimed at anybody in particular anyway simply anybody moaning about it. So no need to take my comments as if I made a personal attack at you.

Thing is you can get lareg cars which are more much more economical than yours, so saying you need a large car is still no excuse, I never told you right you have to go buy a little car did I? Then to right I would be bang out of order, but I just would not do that so...

I also had said in a previous post I don’t think that its going to make any real difference to the world’s situation in terms of emissions and that they are doing it to make extra money from taxes. As you say I would have to be pretty stupid to think its done solely for making a greener world.

Thing is though as I already said this is the change the government have made they are the ones running the country, do you honestly think Tories would reduce everybody tax?

Hey I am like the rest of you I hate paying taxes but no matter what happens your going to have to pay them in one way or another. I think considering the situation were in taxing people who are running round in uneconomical cars is one good way of raising funds for government rather than me having to pay more income tax for example, why should I have to pay extra money in income tax for example cos people with uneconomical cars don’t want to pay extra for that luxury?