Council moves chavs into £200k new builds

SingleSue

As I have mentioned before on this thread I live in an HA property with lovely neighbours who all tend their gardens, respect their properties and for the most part, work.

However, when we owned our own property our next door neighbours were drug addicts (they also owned their own home), who stole my milk from my doorstep (something that would not happen here), trashed their house and generally brought the area down....oh and there was also the neighbours about 5 houses down who had a drug bust, again they owned their own home.

So really, you can have good and bad no matter where you are living, HA/council or private rent/purchased properties.

Pont

Totally agree SingleSue. A bad apple will totally upset the apple cart where ever the orchard may be (gosh that sounds quite poetic!).

LillyJ

Microstar wrote: »

You might have seen the news reports today that over 4 million UK households (EXCLUDING pensioner households) have no one in full-time work. I don't know what proportion of the total number of UK households that is, but its a lot.

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In my parents house (they own outright) there is no one in full time work, as my Dad retired at 50 (therefore does not fit in to the "pensioner" figures as he wouldn't be included under 65).
My Mum stopped working when she had cancer, but she doesn't claim DLA or any other benefit at all.

Figures aren't always what they seem....

wheretheresawill

It saddens me that I used to have views similar to some of the unpleasant people on this forum; I too used to believe that council/HA tenants were all lazy scroungers - that was when I was studying medicine. You see I tried really hard to make my way in life, worked hard at school, did a BSc before studying medicine as a second degree, however life isnt always fair and in my experience illness is a great leveller. On finishing my degree I also 'achieved' the diagnosis of manic depression, after 8 years at university my finances were a mess ( I never thought when I took out loans that illness would stop me repaying them - I now am less naive about what life can throw at you!) so what were my options, I certainly qualified for DLA; housing benefit etc, I was very poorly; what did I do? I retrained in a less stressful occupation so that I could shock horror rebuild my life and not depend on the state for the rest of my life. According to some on this forum this isnt possible- an educated hard working housing association tenant! never! So dont judge people that you know nothing about, it really isnt a very nice quality to have

gabyjane

Hmm intersting as we live on a new development, some is owned by people throught the estate agents, we are S/O and the rest is council..i wasn't bothered at first and we appear to have lovely neighbours until a few days ago when one of ours (luckily not too near us) has turned into your dreaded neighbour..i did something quite drastic today as she upset me in what i saw her doing and i felt it was the only way to sort things out..i hope this doesn't carry on as unfortunatly this is where council housed people get ther names from. We have worked our asses off to buy this house and they just sit in their gardens all day doing nothing..of course people are going to be rallied..still i look at them and wonder what sort of future they are going to have really..no house, no work experience? i know where id'e rather be..
So long as they don't annoy us i don't really care tbh.

lindseykim13

Microstar wrote: »

Since I own my house outright (and a couple of others which I let out) I find it hard to imagine any circumstance in which I could be 'repossed'. :rotfl:

I do indeed live in the real world. I'm a landlord and have been for many years (since well before the BTL craze). I like to live a nice life - what's wrong with that? IME (which is considerably greater than yours I think) people who have a strong financial interest in their home (i.e. own it or have a mortgage on it) take much greater care of the property and have more of an interest in keeping the local area in good shape.
The one thing that all small children should be taught when they start school is that life is not 'fair'. Some are destined to do well and others are likely to end up as council-house dwelling chavs.
I had to take my elderly father to hospital yesterday, I paid for him to attend the local BUPA hospital. Of course I could have taken him to the NHS hospital, struggled to park, sat waiting for an age amongst the world's flotsam and jetsam and then see some consultant's junior assistant in a mucky room. As it was we drove straight into a parking place, into the hospital and saw the key man himself. I'm not embarrassed about being able to do that - I've worked hard in the past and made wise financial decisions, and now I'm able to reap the rewards.
Maybe instead of moaning about prices and not being able to buy, some of the younger generation could work a bit harder, improve their qualifications etc. and generate a bit more income. I came from a relatively poor background but 'made good' through hard work and study. There are lots of opportunities out there - you won't improve your lot in life by whining on message boards.

what an a*sshole, if you had to be a first time buyer now in this tough market i am sure that you wouldn't be so up your own backside. What goes around comes around however many houses you own! Amazing how if everyone could afford their own mortgage you would loose all the people who rent from you. long may house prices fall.

gabyjane

Here here lindseykim13 what a load of cr*p you talk microstar

Gonzo

Microstar wrote: »

I certainly don't want to live somewhere with a load of HA or LA tenants, 'works' vans parked up in the driveway (so many residential areas look like small industrial estates), chavs with lowered cars and loud stereos, revving engines etc. Yeah, I'm a nimby and I really like it that way. You have'em in your back yard.

*revives old reply, ER style*

I have a nice little work van. The company is nice enough to pay for it and all the diesel on my 160 round trip every day. I pay ZERO tax (or indeed anything else) on it.

If I had a car, I would pay, what, £150 - £200 a month in extra tax? We still need to run a car as my girlfriend works and needs it to commute. One of the cars would then be sat on the drive at the weekend, costing me money either way, so a van, which costs nothing is the perfect solution!

When I earn so much that £200 a month is irrelevant, then I shall opt for a car. Until that point, I shall rough it with the riff-raff.

Parp!

Gonzo

Benefits_Blagger wrote: »

what does it feel like to have done all that hard work, get a good job and still not afford a home and society still consider you as part of the "underclass"

pretty !!!!!! isnt it ? and people wonder why others give up.

I wouldn't consider myself an expert on your situation, though I have noted the odd post. I personally think that you would be able to find work if you really wanted to.
I hire people myself, so I fully understand the 'overqualified' position. I don't hire vastly overqualified people for low level jobs because you're training them for a job they will leave. If you aimed at jobs just below what you want, you have far more chance of getting into the job you do want.
I don't know you, so the next comment is very general and may be wholly inaccurate. Speaking as an employer (yes, yes, a totally different industry), once you are in my office, (i.e you have the minimum qualifications), I go more with attitude and enthusiasm than anything else. If I can't see myself happily working alongside you, you get passed over. It may be the impression you give in interview that puts people off, attitude, clothing, general outlook; all these things can put an interviewer off.
Just a thought, feel free to retort, it just seems a waste to have a capable person relying on a system that should only be there for people who really need it, not people who elect not to take what's on offer, just because it isn't their dream job...

monkeybutler_2

@Benefits Blagger

You got a third- you unfortunately don't get to bad mouth anyone elses degree. A third is really a nice way of saying you failed- no one is really impressed with the fact someone got something 40% right. You certainly don't get to be have a go at other peoples education when you yourself can't actually write properly. Instead of feeling hard done by and being snooty at other people, who like it or not DO have a better and more useful qualification than you, accept that the situation you find yourself in is entirely your own fault and sort yourself out. I quit my first degree six years ago, went straight into work and am now earning a decent wage whilst studying for my LLB part time. Whining really isn't going to help you- swallow your misplaced snobbery and bile and get a job.