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Council moves chavs into £200k new builds

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  • Snooze
    Snooze Posts: 2,041 Forumite
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    Microstar wrote: »
    Well I'll certainly stick my hand up and declare myself a nimby, snob, or whatever you want to call me. My own house is in a very nice area. Beautiful 12th century church over the road, driveways occupied by prestige cars, well tended gardens and good local schools where all the kids speak English and are mostly well behaved. No loud stereos or people shouting four-letter words in the street.
    I certainly don't want to live somewhere with a load of HA or LA tenants, 'works' vans parked up in the driveway (so many residential areas look like small industrial estates), chavs with lowered cars and loud stereos, revving engines etc. Yeah, I'm a nimby and I really like it that way. You have'em in your back yard.

    :confused:

    I live in my own house in a very nice area, have a "works" van on my driveway, have a garden so overgrown you could lose a small child, play music at a level that has caused my neighbour complain and I tend to swear a lot.

    Umm, sorry, what was your point again, Microstar? :rolleyes:

    Rob
  • tr3mor
    tr3mor Posts: 2,325 Forumite
    problem is that even in theory having a imperial degree (of whatever grade) should have some value because of the reputation, it doesnt because of the sheer amout of graduates now. i spoke to guy at an recruitment agency, who acknowledged the problem, but he said due to the sheer amout of graduates they need some kind of cut off point, which is the 2:1.

    You don't get accepted onto a course unless you have a good chance of getting a 2.1 or above. A 3rd just indicates laziness. No one wants a lazy employee.

    :money:
  • I do suspect though that big new build areas such as Highwoods in Colchester are probably going to turn into tomorrows sink estates, mostly on the grounds that such place have lots of housing but nothing to promote social cohesion and you know, actually meeting your neighbours.
  • jamescredmond
    jamescredmond Posts: 1,061 Forumite
    Pont wrote: »
    Totally agree SingleSue. A bad apple will totally upset the apple cart where ever the orchard may be (gosh that sounds quite poetic!).
    haven't looked at this thread for a while.

    then what do I find?

    pure poetry.

    wordsworth himself would be admiring the quality.

    meanwhile, I've seen what a couple of rotten apples can do.

    a few miles from my pad lies a 50's built estate that won a national award when built.

    many of the people who were born there still live there and generally look after their homes.

    BUT.

    2 problem families were re-housed on this estate (coming from elsewhere) and between them have reduced this once quite pleasant area to a vandalised, drug-ridden ghetto in the space of just 3 yrs.

    I kid you not. just 2 families at war with each other and the world at large.

    and human rights legislation will allow them to continue until they're caught burgling, vandalising, drug - dealing, red handed.

    for many on this estate, that day can't come soon enough.
    miladdo
  • Microstar_2
    Microstar_2 Posts: 433 Forumite
    Snooze wrote: »
    :confused:

    I live in my own house in a very nice area, have a "works" van on my driveway, have a garden so overgrown you could lose a small child, play music at a level that has caused my neighbour complain and I tend to swear a lot.

    Umm, sorry, what was your point again, Microstar? :rolleyes:

    Rob

    My point was that I don't want to live next to someone like you, who has obviously turned what was 'a very nice area' into something less than that :rolleyes:
  • Lotus-eater
    Lotus-eater Posts: 10,789 Forumite
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    Whats this thing about nice cars? Weird.
    Doesn't matter where you live or what car your neighbour has, or what condition they keep their front lawn, or what posh accent they speak with. It matters what sort of people you live next to.

    "I don't want to live near poor people" I hope the rich people you live next to don't lose all their money in a stock market crash, because they will be forced to move out of the area then, in a "Good life, Margo" sort of action committee. The problem is, that was a parody of stuck up middle class England, you are the real thing
    Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.
  • Lotus-eater
    Lotus-eater Posts: 10,789 Forumite
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    Nice cars are also often owned by people who have borrowed large amount of money to buy them as well :D
    I live in a nice house because we haven't gone on holiday for years, we put all our money into a good house, we run an old economical car, have a works van outside the house, sometimes let the front lawn get long (life is only so long you know) and get on with our (very) well off neighbours very well.
    Glad I don't live next to you, because I think I would be looked down upon.
    Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.
  • m00m00
    m00m00 Posts: 1,755 Forumite
    there's plenty of new audis, and 4x4's on the local chav hellhole estate, I don't get where this association with cars comes from. As the poster above points out, when I see a nice car these days my thoughts aren't wow look how hard that person has worked to get that, it's wow how much debt are they in.
    It's a health benefit ...
  • richto
    richto Posts: 821 Forumite
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    basically the just of the story was that in oldham, the council (maybe housing association) has bought up a load of new builds which they are renting out for £73 a week. .

    Yes, glad to see thay are handing them out to 'Chavs' who havnt had the chance to earn the money to buy a house yet rather than older habitual benefit scroungers who usually get them.

    I think that the longer you have to rely on benfits paid for by the tax bills of those of us that work for a living, the worse housing you should get and the lower the benefits.
  • thriftybabe
    thriftybabe Posts: 689 Forumite
    I am quite disturbed by some of the comments made on here! We live in a very "posh" area with people who have lots of money. I could not care too hoots what car they drive or what they do. My OH and I are not showy people. We own or house outright, have no other debt and have quite a bit of savings in the bank. We could go and buy a top of the range car with cash to keep up with everyone else but have not. I wonder what our neighbours think as we have a Van outside our house! I would like to think that the most important thing to them is that we are good neighbours and we know what is important in life. I think most of our neighbours are decent people who are not that shallow!
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