Private school fees (merged)

Discodee

In fairness we dont know how old maverick is, and things may very well have been different when he/she took the exam.
The system is a joke now though. A FARCE!!

emsywoo123

Mado wrote: »

Don't you find it unfair that with tutoring and private school children manage to get into grammar school at the expense of able children who just haven't had that extra push, denying them of the chance you had? (the total number of places is limited...)
I do.

I can only know from when I went to grammar school, but this was not the case.

Discodee

thanksalot wrote: »

What an interesting observation.
One thing that has been going wrong in society around the same time is the breakdown of the family structure. There is strong evidence that children in 2 parents stable families do better.
Now before this turns nasty and personnal, this is an observation at societal level, not individual. Yes I personnaly know children of divorced families who have gone to great achievements.
It is just again an observation (and only that) that some of the fervent supporters of private education on this thread are separated from the child other biological parent.
So maybe, when we look at "what is best for our children" it is limited to "what is best but fits in with what we want".

I agree here. A stable happy home environment with 2 loving caring parents is always best
I was only thinking the other day, the four very good players in DS's football team all have both parents living with them! So maybe it even extends to their performance at sports!:D

Discodee

emsywoo123 wrote: »

I can only know from when I went to grammar school, but this was not the case.

Tis now tho, hun. I know first hand.

sjaypink

Discodee wrote: »

I agree here. A stable happy home environment with 2 loving caring parents is always best
I was only thinking the other day, the four very good players in DS's football team all have both parents living with them! So maybe it even extends to their performance at sports!:D

so is this debate about family structure now then?! although i guess 4 it 2 b a debate u would need people 2 disagree.........
i suppose the operative words are 'loving and caring'. for me 1 loving and caring parent is always preferable to 2 unhappy, resentful parents (speaking from a position of being a product of such), of course 2 happy parents is optimum...........

thanksalot

sjaypink wrote: »

so is this debate about family structure now then?! although i guess 4 it 2 b a debate u would need people 2 disagree.........
.......

Not really.
It is more an observation about what has changed in society that can be linked to changing behaviours in school.
Absent fathers, unsupported single parents, emotionally disturbed children, financial burdens associated with divorce can all contribute to a variety of problems at school.

emsywoo123

I feel now I have been criticised for
a) sending my daughter to private school
b) supporting grammar schools
c) being a single parent

And I have been very nearly accused of God knows what regarding the payment of my daughter's school fees!
So I will leave this thread that is just now so obscure!
Good luck in your debate!
Emma.

thanksalot

emsywoo123 wrote: »

I feel now I have been criticised for
a) sending my daughter to private school
b) supporting grammar schools
c) being a single parent

And I have been very nearly accused of God knows what regarding the payment of my daughter's school fees!
So I will leave this thread that is just now so obscure!
Good luck in your debate!
Emma.

If you can't tell the difference between an observation and a criticism, how can you expect to debate anything?
There was nothing personal in my mention of single parents. And I don't think that anyone has been singled out for supporting grammar school.
Please, just don't paint yourself as a "victim". You make choices, you stand by them.

borntobefree

thanksalot wrote: »

If you can't tell the difference between an observation and a criticism, how can you expect to debate anything?
There was nothing personal in my mention of single parents. And I don't think that anyone has been singled out for supporting grammar school.
Please, just don't paint yourself as a "victim". You make choices, you stand by them.

Don't worry she'll be back - she's left this thread loads of times:rotfl:. She has a thick skin like the rest of us....come back Emma we need some one to "debate" wiv;)

borntobefree

[quote=Lunar_Eclipse;10725885_When_eldest_was_in_Reception_(3_yrs_ago)_and_we_were_discussing_her_reading_books_at_parents_evening_her_teacher_told_us_'we can't let them get too ahead you know'. Her exact words. I was absolutely stunned and horrified beyond belief. Get ahead of what exactly? She was 4 years old. Thankfully the Junior school is much better,.[/quote]

I can't believe a teacher said this - it's incredible. How can you be too far ahead in reading anyway? Teachers just give out books at the appropriate level for them to read at home - so I don't see how any child can be reading too far ahead? I know in the "olden" days teachers used to try and keep a class at the same level. Can't say that this has been my experience though. Glad the junior school is better;)