Private school fees (merged)

Lunar_Eclipse

natalie1974 wrote: »

Funny cos I thought single parents , gays etc were everywhere , I was a single parent living in Kent , or was that a figment of my imagination ? Her grandad's brother got "married" 2 years ago this June to his partner and she attended the civil partnership ceremony . She speaks nothing like the characters , although the area we live in borders London , only 5 miles up the road , so most people round here speak with a London accent . She also discusses it at school with her school mates who also watch it so I can't be the only one then can I ?

Sorry, of course there are single parents where we live. My children (oddly I agree) don't know of any children from single parent families.

Personally, I don't think EastEnders is dealing with real issues such as the struggles single people and gays face, but more soap style entertainment very very loosely connected to those issues. If you wanted your daughter to be watching programmes based upon real life issues, she would be watching programmes like the BBC News and not EastEnders.

Upon reflection, my post was perhaps not what I meant to say. The issues may not be that unusual to children aged 8, but the way they are stereotyped and attitudes displayed by the characters are far from the reality that I/we personally live. Perhaps your life is much more like a soap opera.

And her friends watch it too?!

borntobefree

meester wrote: »

Nothing winds me up more than people who think feral children don't exist.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7373929.stm

Meester here's one for you. He went to some of the top independent schools in Bristol. BUT I wouldn't blame his schols for this outcome.:rolleyes:;)

melbury

Although I watch it, I think most of the story lines in Eastenders are totally unsuitable for children and shouldn't be shown at 7.30pm. I can't believe that anyone would let a young child watch it, so much sex, drink, drugs, gays, violence etc etc:eek: :eek: And apart from that they all speak so badly, who would their child emulating that lot!

BACKFRMTHEEDGE

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

Additionally, it is not uncommon for universities now to lower the offer grades required to those in the state sector, because of the high standards in the private sector. It is much less likely for someone to get 3 or 4 A grades at A level in an average comprehensive, than at a good private school, thus this is done to reinstate some form of balance.

Hi again;),

Given that RIKKI has admitted spending £18k on her child's second year of A levels I will use this as an example as to why Universities are doing this. It is not because standards are higher in the private sector compared to standards in the state sector as you allege. Universites want the best candidates FULL STOP. Comparing a child that has £18k on just one year of their education to a child who hasn't is like comparing apples to pears - it just doesn't compute. So obviously someone who has the same grades from the state sector versus someone who has attained those grades from the private sector is probably the better candidate. Indeed, this is born out in all the research which show that the state candidate will go on to achieve a higher grade of degree. Spending large amounts of money on your child's education and then believing that this shows that they are more able than their state counterparts creates a fallacy that most in higher education can see through (thank goodness).

Lunar_Eclipse

BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »

Hi again;),

Given that emsywool has admitted spending £18k on her child's second year of A levels I will use this as an example as to why Universities are doing this. It is not because standards are higher in the private sector compared to standards in the state sector as you allege. Universites want the best candidates FULL STOP. Comparing a child that has £18k on just one year of their education to a child who hasn't is like comparing apples to pears - it just doesn't compute. So obviously someone who has the same grades from the state sector versus someone who has attained those grades from the private sector is probably the better candidate. Indeed, this is born out in all the research which show that the state candidate will go on to achieve a higher grade of degree. Spending large amounts of money on your child's education and then believing that this shows that they are more able than their state counterparts creates a fallacy that most in higher education can see through (thank goodness).

I was referring to exam result standards, which on average are higher in the private sector, as opposed to IQ standards in individual children. Thus I meant exactly what you have written.

I have been giving this serious thought over the last week or so, to some degree because of the topical threads on this forum and am questioning our plans to move into the private sector for secondary schooling. (It will require sacrifice.) My children are bright so are very highly likely to be in the top streams at our local state secondary (up and coming) school, and I'm wondering if this might actually make university entry easier for them than being one of many straight A private sector students. Additionally, it would mean that any extra curricular activities would be an option (and I don't mean private tuition!), as well as adventurous and educational annual family holidays. Food for thought and a bit off topic I know.

thanksalot

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

My children are bright so are very highly likely to be in the top streams at our local state secondary (up and coming) school, and I'm wondering if this might actually make university entry easier for them than being one of many straight A private sector students. Additionally, it would mean that any extra curricular activities would be an option (and I don't mean private tuition!), as well as adventurous and educational annual family holidays. Food for thought and a bit off topic I know.

Bright children who receive support at home and understand the value of education will do well anywhere provided they are safe at school(ie no bullying, drugs, knives...): this is the only thing that would make me consider private education.
So save your money for whne it will make a difference in their life!:T

Dick_here

borntobefree wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7373929.stm

Meester here's one for you. He went to some of the top independent schools in Bristol. BUT I wouldn't blame his schols for this outcome.:rolleyes:;)

Why do they wear sandals, Squire, is it a lack of education ? :rolleyes:

borntobefree

Hi Dh,

I'm not sure I understand your post. Meester (and your dearself) have used many impolite words to describe state kids. Meester backed his views up by posting references to some kids in the news. I was merely doing the same. Just because Andrew Ibrahim was schooled in the independent sector doesn't mean all kids who attend independent schools are terrorists does it? Hope I've made myself clear this time.;)

thanksalot

Subject is in the news today...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7374058.stm

It will be interesting to see if the trend continues with the credit crunch.
Would you put yourself in debts to finance your children's private education ?

I wouldn't. I think leading by example is the best form of education, and that living within your means is a serious life lesson.

emsywoo123

BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »

Hi again;),

Given that emsywool has admitted spending £18k on her child's second year of A levels I will use this as an example as to why Universities are doing this. It is not because standards are higher in the private sector compared to standards in the state sector as you allege. Universites want the best candidates FULL STOP. Comparing a child that has £18k on just one year of their education to a child who hasn't is like comparing apples to pears - it just doesn't compute. So obviously someone who has the same grades from the state sector versus someone who has attained those grades from the private sector is probably the better candidate. Indeed, this is born out in all the research which show that the state candidate will go on to achieve a higher grade of degree. Spending large amounts of money on your child's education and then believing that this shows that they are more able than their state counterparts creates a fallacy that most in higher education can see through (thank goodness).

Woah woah I have done what? Please amend your post or provide proof, as I have done no such thing!!!!!!!